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Created: 1/26/2015 6:23:54 AMReplies: 28
1/26/2015 6:58:29 AM - Mike K - 1,044 posts (#28)

I liked "Foggy Bottom preps." I can tell you this, one thing I have NEVER been called is a "prep" or "preppy"!!!

1/26/2015 7:04:46 AM - Tri Corner Hat - 4 posts (#245)

 

This one's an instant classic: 

 

"I really don't like their freshman forward from Japan, Wantanabe. I've watched them a few times. Every time this guy makes a play or hits a 3, he acts like he is some unstoppable basketball star. He's good, but he hasn't earned that type of swagger. I sincerely hope he doesn't earn it against us."

Yup that "Wantanabe" kid is just too arrogant and cocky for his own good. 

 

1/26/2015 7:10:58 AM - Pacman - 115 posts (#142)

I have 2 tickets to tomorrow's game that I can't use.  Let me know if anyone's interested in buying them.

1/26/2015 7:15:40 AM - Maine Colonial - 411 posts (#58)

Opposing teams better get used to seeing more swagger from GW as Coach Lonergan recruits higher caliber kids and the team continues its rise. Cause it's pretty clear he loves kids who have that swagger and aren't afraid to display it if you read his quotes about Paul in today's Hatchet: PAUL  Hopefully we see a lot of swagger from Yuta and Paul tomorrow night.

1/26/2015 8:11:16 AM - Goo Colonials Go - 33 posts (#216)

I wish there was something, anything, about VCU or the city of Richmond that would allow me to respond to that "Foggy Bottom Preps" comment. Both are just so bland and forgettable that all I can really do is nod my head and say, "sure, whatever." 

And yea, we really need to get Yuta's swagger under control. The kid is simply insane with his celebrations. Watch as he absolutely murders VMI with a dunk and then has the audacity to take a couple of hops and run back on defense with no facial emotion whatsoever. 

 

1/26/2015 8:43:40 AM - SD DUDE - 13 posts (#236)

Most of their thread is nonsense -- e.g. jabs at ML's hairline -- although some posters do have substantive comments on how this game may turn out.

This will undoubtedly be a good test for our guys.  We will need to control the tempo -- long possessions -- and play some stingy defense.  Let's hope our hot shooting % from beyond the arc continues, as well.

1/26/2015 9:12:22 AM - MYSTERY COLONIAL - 217 posts (#102)

Looking forward to a hard fought game, and hoping for a steal on the road.  I think our 3pt shooting will stabilize at 35-45% throughout the rest of the season now that guys have a little confidence and a greener light to shoot from beyond the arc.  That said, if VCU starts getting aggressive on the perimeter, I hope we're not overly confident from the last game and start chucking up bad threes.  Guys should always feel confident to shoot a 3 when left open, but if not, looking for JoeMac and Savage to penetrate.  

Key to the game though is composure.  I've said it many times before: I don't think the havoc is that menacing.  It obviously does work against many teams, but I've always thought a game-long full court press is something that should be easy to beat with quick hands and feet (both of which we have).  As long as we don't make mental errors and get trapped in the havoc consistently, we should keep it close and have a great shot at winning.  Ideally, we beat the press early on for some easy buckets, build a 6-10 point lead and then use our pacing and defense to control the rest of the way.

1/26/2015 9:12:55 AM - Hugh - 118 posts (#140)

Comments like that about Yuta are ridiculous. His only problem is that he has a terrible poker face. He's always trying to hold back a big grin after a big play.

1/26/2015 9:18:30 AM - BM - 5,376 posts (#3)

Disagree with the "long possessions" comment.  That's just more time for their guards to steal the ball.  Break the press and go at the basket.  We have the horses to do that the whole game.

1/26/2015 10:03:50 AM - Free Quebec - 6,047 posts (#2)

Last year we only played them once with a full complement of guards (Kethan was out and Joe was severely limited by the hip injury when we played there).  In that game, we absolutely shredded their diamond press by having Kethan tthrow the ball from the right side of the court by our FT line to Garino on the left side at half court, and then Garino start attacking to initiate a 2 on 1.   Couldn't do that the second game without Kethan (and every time Cartagena touched the ball, it was like an automatic turnover).

I would expect Shaka to try to make some adjustment to it, but really I am expecting VCU to play mostly their man pressure, rather than the diamond press that usually forces the tempo and high turnovers.  Their man press can still force turnovers - It means a lot of dribbling in the open court against Weber - and it can wear guards down, and it does tend to slow the tempo into a more half court game.  If we see a lot of the man press, I would think KevLar may help break it a lot as the outlet guy or even bringing it over the half court stripe a lot.   But I also think that if they use the man press and we are patient and strong with the ball, the game could be played at our pace.

The other thing that really helped us on offense was getting the ball to KevLar early in possessions before their D could get us on our heels.   With all the trapping they do on the perimeter, they aren't necessarily equipped to deal with a mobile big guy down low early in the possession.   Mo Allie-Cox does present a different matchup from Juvante Reddic in that he is probably stronger and can hold position a little better defensively, but he's also about 3-4 inches shorter than KevLar so as long as Larsen is ready for a physical game, he should find success.

On offense, VCU relies heavily on the three ball. That means there will be ebbs and flows in their scoring.  They will get hot and score in bunches, and that's where a lot of teams panic (especially at VCU).  But even if we get down, we can't try to play hero ball. If the team stays within itself and plays its usual tough defense, VCU will likely cool off and we'll methodically get back in it.   Also would help if Melvin Johnson doesn't have one of those games where he can't miss and scores in a variety of ways.

We're also going to need our bench to be solid.  Very tough matchup for Griffin - his ball handling is not ready for this, but if other guys can beat the pressure, Griff should be able to get open for a couple of threes. Big test for Paul.   We need a few good minutes from him so Joe and Kethan don't get worn down, but most freshmen guards have trouble there.  And if Yuta is healthy, we need him to get it back together and be strong with the ball.  His length and ability to attack off the wings could cause them a lot of problems.   Doubt we'll see much of Bryant or McCoy tomorrow.

This really is a winnable game. It's not easy, but wew have the right makeup to beat VCU.   Looking forward to it.

1/26/2015 10:15:58 AM - MYSTERY COLONIAL - 217 posts (#102)

FQ, well put.  We have the talent and coaching to win this game, and I'm hoping for at least a more competitive game than the last time we were in Richmond.  Break the press and we win the game.

More importantly, Stoney's on L and 20th will be showing the game and there will be a gathering of students and alumni there.  Hope to see some of you there as well, spread the word! (PS. the bar is owned by a GW alum and they have great specials on gamedays).

1/26/2015 10:23:29 AM - The MV - 4,639 posts (#4)

The win against VCU last year saw two different type of pressbreakers.  In the first half, Joe would often be the inbounder and Kethan and Pato (and sometimes Kevin I believe) would sprint to half court keeping the VCU defense honest against the long pass.  Then, they would turn around and collect the pass at about the foul line.  This made it difficult for VCU to set up a trap.  Then, in the second half, we threw one cross-court pass after another in order to break the press.  If or when VCU goes to the Diamond press, that is our opportunity to attack the rim.  If we break the press, this should result in odd-numbered breaks which should result in easy baskets or trips to the line.  If they rely on their man press, this should not produce as many turnovers but forces GW to be effective within their half-court sets.  The hot shooting we've seen the past two games will be put to the test against a defense who, quite generously, closes out shooters a bit better than Fordham or Duquesne,

 

1/26/2015 1:08:52 PM - Tuna Can - 1,608 posts (#19)

I will pre-apologize to the VCU fans for any and all good plays that Yuta makes. We all at GW humbly beg their forgiveness if, in any way, they feel at all slighted by any personal expressions of pleasure brought on by a successful play.

WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?! 

That from a VCU fan? HA HA HA.

1/26/2015 3:38:53 PM - Free Quebec - 6,047 posts (#2)

The other thing I forgot to mention was that in the home game agianst VCU, our 1-3-1 wreaked, um, havoc on thier offense with Garino a one-man presss at the top of it. For whatever reason, Garino has rarely been at the top of the 1-3-1, and we haven't been playing it all that much anyway. It got so much hype after the Wichita State game that it's usually the first thing people talk about when they talk about us, yet we probably don't play it more than 10% of possessions.  Will be interesting to see if we use it, how much, and whether we go back to Garino up top like last year, or if it's mostly used with Yuta up top to play to his strengths.
 

1/26/2015 3:41:03 PM - NJ Colonial - 1,833 posts (#18)

Mike K. - I have - and my Sigma Chi friends too! 

1/26/2015 3:46:50 PM - Me - 75 posts (#175)

"The GW board... bad layout or worst layout of all time?"

Are you really gonna take that from them Herve?

1/26/2015 3:59:13 PM - MYSTERY COLONIAL - 217 posts (#102)

Anybody who thinks the standard cookie cutter discussion board layout (is there a word for these?) that VCU has is better looking than this one does not deserve the attention required to be argued with.

This is a great board largely due to the simplicity and ease with which one can follow a thread.  I bet google maps couldn't even navigate the other boards.

1/26/2015 4:52:23 PM - LuvDaGame - 220 posts (#100)

ML said he understands that we are going to lose some and I agree. I just want us to compete well. We need to shake it up on offense. One thing the LaSalle game taught us is that we can be predictable in the few plays that we run. The coaches noticed that and changed it up the next game. Anyhow I trust that ML and company have the guys prepared and I am looking forward to seeing a hard fought game!!! #RaiseHigh

1/26/2015 5:31:40 PM - Bigfan - 2,651 posts (#11)

Been itching to play them with Kethan back, their worst nightmare, outside of last year's Pato home performance.

Don't know if Paul's dribbling style works well against havoc and he is a freshman, but he does know how to score and pass in transition.

Not sure we can do it for many reasons, including their refs (remember the game at them last year). In the A-10, VCU is the Duke of home cooking.

But I do feel VCU is actually ripe for a loss right now.

Just hope we overcome enough to prevail.

1/26/2015 5:35:35 PM - herve - 8,930 posts (#1)

Again, beware of "our refs"....we are one of the best teams in the country in terms of fouling....unless, of course, we're playing at VCU or at Dayton. Guarantee: VCU will have no more than one player with 3 fouls at end of game and GW will have at least two starters with 4 and the others with 3. It's "magic".

1/26/2015 5:47:34 PM - Free Quebec - 6,047 posts (#2)

Luvdagame, one of the good things about the matchup is that VCU doesn't seem likely to pack it in against us.  They prefer heavy ball pressure (like DePaul but night and day better), so we may get opportunities for straight line drives. This isn't one of those teams, like LaSalle that has two big guys inside to take away the middle without sacrificing perimeter D.   that said, if KevLar is not fast with his moves when he catches, they are quick enough to double or triple inside and still get back out and cover the perimeter.

NJColonial, In Hoc.

Mystery Colonial it's always funny to me how fans of boards that are designed to force extra clicks (just to boost numbers for advertising) complain about our simple ad-free board.   The fact that this board is old school, ad free, and not designed to appeal to the Charlotte vidiots of the world is one of the things we love about it!

 

 

1/26/2015 5:57:51 PM - Nemanjamental - 165 posts (#119)

It's so amusing that to me that opposing fans think this board is garbage. It is archaic, yes, but it is remarkably simple and easy to use - the Apple of fan sites. There is not a single thing that is cumbersome about the board except for finding old threads and singling out users' posts, but otherwise it does what it needs to do in a nice way. 

1/26/2015 6:00:05 PM - GW Vet - 24 posts (#225)

Vegas has VCU by -8

1/26/2015 6:41:08 PM - Maine Colonial - 411 posts (#58)

Bet the house on GW!

1/26/2015 6:46:03 PM - Poog - 3,792 posts (#6)

It's fascinating to read the VCU board and find none of the self-flaggellation so prominent here. Some fans are totally blind homers, others merely confident, though cautious, supporters. There appears to be a growing animosity between the fan bases at the same time there is a developing competitive rivalry on the court not dissimilar to what we had with Xavier for a couple of years.  Consider their home court a bigger advantage than the Smith Center only because we don't seem to have gotten to the point where we can seal off our territory from opposing fans in those upper reaches seats behind the basket near the opposing bench. Makes winning on their court all the sweeter if GW can pull it off.

1/26/2015 7:33:08 PM - NJ Colonial - 1,833 posts (#18)

FQ - Signo Vinces

 

1/26/2015 9:28:07 PM - BC - 1,407 posts (#24)

In hoc signo vinces (Classical Latin: [ɪn hoːk ˈsɪŋnoː ˈwɪnkeːs]; Ecclesiastical Latin: [in ok ˈsiɲɲo ˈvintʃes]) is a Latin phrase meaning "In this sign you will conquer."   I still need a translation.

1/26/2015 10:10:22 PM - bobo - 3,084 posts (#8)

Weber is really the best on the ball defender the A10 has seen in a long time.  Often he is too much for even a team's main ball handler so it is vital to have 2 ball handlers in the game at all times if possible to let the 2nd one bring the ball up if Weber is causing problems.  I'd probably put Jorgenson in for both Savage and McDonald to rotate the 3.  Jorgenson + Griffin in at the same time is asking for trouble.  Garino and Larsen will be called upon to help out too but I'd keep 2 of the 3 top GW PGs in at the same time vs VCU.

If you can beet the press, Garino, Savage, McDonald and Yuta are all good finishers if they stay aggressive and attack the rim.  VCU doesn't force a particularly poor FG%, fouls a lot and isn't a particularly good rebounding team (below average in all those catagories).  But they are top15 in both offensive and defensive TO%.  They get more shots by not turning the ball over and causing a ton of TOs defensively.  GW gets to the line better than any other A10 team and is good on the boards.  They need to hammer VCU on the glass and look to attack the rim to get to the line.  GW has been giving up too many TOs, so that's the key for them to work on vs a very aggressive defensive team.

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