Jonathan Nwankwopower forward - 6-9

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 6/19/2014 9:57:25 AM

Rival$ article says GW has called with interest in the '15 PF.

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By: Bigfan (2,829 posts) - 6/19/2014 11:20:38 AM

Like 6'9 and 245.

Tweet seemed to indicate Minnesota showing "the most love" if read it right.

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 6/20/2014 12:07:08 PM

Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop
2015 PF Jon Nwankwo visits: Alabama 6/22, Rice 6/23, Vanderbilt 6/25, Tennessee 6/26, Temple 6/27, Drexel 6/28 & George Washington 6/29.

By: Wax Daddy (193 posts) - 6/20/2014 12:07:12 PM

Scheduled to visit GW on 6/29 per twitter and retweeted by Alex Kline

By: Bigfan (2,829 posts) - 6/20/2014 4:38:57 PM

Actually, we're demonstrably better in basketball and academics than all the teams on the above list.

And Minnesota is very, very cold in the winter.

By: maypoman (671 posts) - 6/20/2014 5:12:10 PM

BIGFAN: Are you kidding? You must have missed Vanderbilt academically and,with one successful basketball season in a row, we've probably had less basketball success then any of those schools. I hope we get this guy, but don't go all nutty on us.

By: DEA (1,465 posts) - 6/20/2014 5:28:49 PM

Yeah Bigfan I hope you're being sarcastic. 

By: Bo Knows (705 posts) - 6/20/2014 5:41:21 PM

I agree on the acdemics (Vanderbilt and Rice) but in basketball terms, it's all about perception. Kids don't know what they ate for lunch these days let alone who has tradition. It's all in the here and now. So unless they are a real student of the game most are looking at us in the NCAAs since that is the most recent memory.

By: MG'14 (310 posts) - 6/20/2014 5:50:11 PM

I think the notion that high school basketball players don't know about college basketball tradition is absurd. You ask any high school player now who the historical greats are they could name them no problem.

By: BC (1,645 posts) - 6/20/2014 10:00:07 PM

As Bigfan says: MN is very very cold in the winter.
 

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 6/27/2014 10:53:50 AM

Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop
Weekend Visits: Ernest Aflakpui to Rhode Island, Rickey McGill to Drexel, Jonathan Nwankwo to Drexel, Temple & George Washington.

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 8/4/2014 9:13:25 AM

Choosing from  Minnesota, Temple, Rice, Seton Hall, Tennessee and Fordham.

By: BC (1,645 posts) - 8/4/2014 9:29:54 AM

What do we need a player who weights more that 210 for?

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 9/6/2014 1:05:56 AM

Minnesota

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 5/19/2015 12:18:48 PM

Released from LOI.  Could be eligibility/clearinghouse problems.  Here's the prep school web site.

By: BM (5,673 posts) - 5/19/2015 12:33:35 PM

Trawling the Minnesota board, looks like he was a national hnor society kid (went to Scanlan in NJ in junior year).

By: ELJ (2,207 posts) - 5/19/2015 2:41:16 PM

Maypoman plus one on Vandy and also Rice.

By: Neil+1 (5/19/2015 2:44:56 PM)

Sign him now. 

By: ziik (2,950 posts) - 5/19/2015 2:56:41 PM

Who would you rather have? Him, or the 7 footer from Providence. And, why does Providence continue to draw big time players? What do they have?

Back to the point: why is this guy leaving the Gophers? What is his academic issue? Is he really 26 years old?

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/19/2015 3:21:17 PM

Ed Cooley, Ziik.  That's what they, who has done just a fantastic job recruiting talent to Providence to date.

Well, they both  sure do have some intriguing size. 

 

By: Thomas (1,146 posts) - 5/19/2015 4:04:50 PM

Looking at BM's link, the comments from Minnesota fans indicate that "Pitino Junior" signed him without checking in with Minnesota's admissions department. Whatever the reason is that Minnesota released him from his LOI, he is a 6-9, 245 pound PF who was recruited by BCS schools, and he would fill a huge frontcourt need for GW!!  The best thing about him is, he'll have 4 years of eligibility

The Dude is right about Ed Cooley's recruiting, I remember he signed two top 25 guards immediately after he got the Providence job. Both of those guys will end up playing in the NBA. One of them has had some brief stints in the NBA and the other was the Co-Big East Player Of The Year this past season and returned to Providence despite being projected to be a mid-first round pick. I thought that guy would declare for the NBA draft the day after Providence was eliminated from the NCAA tournament, his decision to stay in school shocked me.
 

By: Bigfan (2,829 posts) - 5/19/2015 4:04:59 PM

Seems odd that he was released. Can't imagine Minnesota easily letting a prospect go in May, unless he figured out what winters would be like there.

But if he is a National Honor Society Member wouldn't be grades, but we remember foreign players and clearinghouse issues.

Like the size. Worth a shot if he can play this year. Even possibly if he can play next year.

Washington should appeal to him.

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/19/2015 4:15:37 PM

Thomas, Kris Dunn! Dude is a beast.  Cooley did a great job of amassing talent, the Coaching in the NCAA tourney I thought was a bit perplexing, but he's done just a fanatastic job recruiting. If memory holds, we beat out Cooley and Providence for both BigKev AND Cimino, which really is high praise for ML/Staff as Cooley has been landing NBA talent caliber guys in his other recruiting wars.

BigFan, if memory holds you were among the most outspoken in your belief that GW would need to land a high level recruit to replace Kethan,eager to know if you still feel that way.

By: Kaj (51 posts) - 5/19/2015 4:27:30 PM

6'9"-245 with high-major interest, but still enough of a ways away that he would probably still have to accept coming off the bench for his freshman year? This is EXACTLY the type of player this team needs for this year and the years after. Sign him up.

By: doug sandels (783 posts) - 5/19/2015 9:20:55 PM

Minnesota is still understandably skittish after the end of the Clem Haskins Fiasco, but up here it sounds like Pitino was pretty shocked.

By: doug sandels (783 posts) - 5/19/2015 9:21:36 PM

Oh, and our winter was about a billion times better than Boston's.
 

By: BACCAS92 (705 posts) - 5/19/2015 10:14:38 PM

Give that Man (if he is 26) a scholarship.  He fits in well with us.  Are we on his list? 

By: Wax Daddy (193 posts) - 5/20/2015 3:40:57 AM

Kind of surprised to hear the quick calls to sign him. From a basketball standpoint, he sounds like an awesome get for us. I consider us to be better academically than Minnesota, so I would assume we will wait to hear how the clearinghouse issue plays out before offering. Anyone else know of other recruits we've inked under similar murky situations? When would the clearinghouse issue be completed? Sounds very TBD but we should definitely stay in touch. Kind of odd Minnesota wouldn't wait to see how things went unless they had another recruit in the wings

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 5/20/2015 1:01:10 PM

Wax Daddy,

Sometimes the Clearinghouse process is VERY slow. They could still have a bunch of players unresolved deep into the Fall semester and as the season actually approaches.

By: SHOFAZ+1 (71 posts) - 5/20/2015 1:23:29 PM

is he really 26? 

By: Thomas (1,146 posts) - 5/20/2015 2:26:22 PM

From what I'm seeing, it's just Minnesota fans who are claiming that academics led to Pitino letting Nwakwo out of his LOI. I don't believe any higher-ups at Minnesota has made a statement as to why this happened. Since the only negative speculation has come from Gopher fans and the GW coaches are already familiar with Nwankwo, I see no problem with GW trying to sign him.

About his age, remember local player Junior Etou had his age questioned by just about every WCAC coach when he played at O'Connell a few years ago. He still went on to play at Rutgers for the past 2 years and has now transferred to Tulsa. If Nwankwo's "paperwork" says he's 18, then he's 18!!!

By: ziik (2,950 posts) - 5/20/2015 2:30:16 PM

The age comment was intended as humor. Sophomoric, prejudicial humor. 

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/20/2015 2:32:33 PM

He visited last June, any word how the visit went? Any sign yet we're pursuing now?

By: Mike K (1,177 posts) - 5/20/2015 9:59:25 PM

Gotta state the obvious...show him the roster and tell him the only guys his size are jr and sr.  He has a chance to get some PT.  Would be a great "get" if academics fall into place (if that was actually the issue).

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/20/2015 10:08:37 PM

and me.....               err I mean Ryan Andrew McCoy (and Cimino/Goss)

All kidding aside, I agree Mike K, that's a good sell to make for a somewhat raw 4 year guy (and a very bad one to just abot any 1 year 4/5 guy imo)

By: BACCAS92 (705 posts) - 5/20/2015 10:24:14 PM

Bo Knows are we pursuing?  Please tell me yes.  Missing Piece to our Puzzle. 

By: The Other MG (69 posts) - 5/21/2015 12:50:25 PM

As per (recruiting guru) BM on 8/4/14, we were not a finalist.  Any reason why he would now consider GW, if there were 5 other finalists, and we weren't one of them?  One can dream, and I've already lit a candle, but........

By: CT Colonial (172 posts) - 5/21/2015 1:05:24 PM

I don't think we were a finalist for Sina, right? (correct me if I'm wrong, don't remember)  Anyways, a lot can change in a few months. This is all just speculation right now.  I would assume that ML is aware of his decommitment, but we don't know if he wants him or can have him (the latter is more probable).

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/21/2015 1:35:46 PM

Surely not for Sina, CT Colonial good point.  Same with Tyler I believe?

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 5/21/2015 1:36:56 PM

I think you know that GW is after him when someone on staff follows him on twitter or Facebook. Then when the player, his family, a coach says GW is in the mix. And finally when the player takes a visit. Absent any of those things we arely likely in the mix. I don't think there is really any incentive for secrecy in cases like this - on the part of the player or of any of the schools.

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/21/2015 1:59:59 PM

Unlikely in the mix you mean and I would agree. 

That's what I've been writing for weeks, where is there any sign at all that any of these things are happening with a 2015 eligible??

 

By: Poster (5 posts) - 5/21/2015 4:02:14 PM

Well you also got to think who else has a scholarship available this late in the year.  Hey we do. 

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/21/2015 10:43:20 PM

We do, but is that all that rare? At the very least it takes some teams out of the mix who are maxed out.

Thinker you askesd for a prediction? Here's your prediction:

I can't see see us landing even a usefully good 1 year immediately eligible PF/C.  I've alluded to that many times, too tough a sell with an entrenched 5 and a very good 4, too many teams with a lot more playing time to offer. 

I'd say instead the last scholarship goes to a very late class 2015 guy or a transfer, but not the immediately eligible Big transfer so many here seem to prefer. 

 

By: Thomas (1,146 posts) - 5/22/2015 12:15:44 AM

For whatever reason, there seems to be a lot of schools who still have available scholarships for 2015. If you check verbal commits twitter on a regular basis, you'll see two or three 2015 players signing with schools every day. George Mason just signed 2 within the last day or two.

I couldn't find his name in the recruits section, but local JUCO guard Will Ferguson decommitted from Texas State and is now available. In high school he played at O'Connell and then a Virginia public school. He was considered a high-major prospect in high school but ended up at commiting to Texas State after 2 years at a JUCO. I know I mentioned him on here 2 years ago after Nigel decommitted, but I don't recall if GW had any interest. GW doesn't really need a 2-year guard at this point because of all the guards they will have for the upcoming season and Sina starting in 2016-2017, but if ML wants to use all of his available scholarships, Ferguson is an option.

By: Neil+1 (5/22/2015 12:19:48 AM)

Youtube highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIX6ZJPMgr4 

By: The Dude (529 posts) - 5/22/2015 12:27:00 AM

Sounds like a great idea actually. Thomas, did you see the depth chart from Rivals I believe? It listed zero GW 2 guards eligible on our depth chart. I realize we can throw out starting 5's with either a 6'8 F at the two or a 5'11/6'0 Guard, but isn't a 2Guard exactly what we need? Lot of undersized Point Guards is what we have, but really zero pure two guards.

By: FredD (598 posts) - 5/22/2015 6:05:48 AM

Herve I can only view one topic. Do I need a different browser or setting. Thx

By: Thomas (1,146 posts) - 5/22/2015 7:24:19 AM

The Dude,  you're right about GW needing a true shooting guard. I was just looking at the number of guards GW now has, figured that the backcourt is going to be crowded for the next couple of years and they had no need for another guard who would have only 2 years of eligibility. It seems as if ML is okay with having an undersized backcourt. Matt Hart and Mitola look like they can both play off the ball even though they are undersized. Yuta and Garino are also versatile enough to play some shooting guard as well.

GW has a glaring need for some frontcourt players has me just focused on them when it comes to recruiting at this point. I brought up Will Ferguson because he's local and the staff may be familiar with him.

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/23/2015 3:55:41 PM

Fair view Thomas, and we agree about the 2 Guard as well as the importance of adding to the frontcourt, its only in the context of immediately available transfers do I think a starting guard makes more sense over a frontcourt depth man.

Question I would have about Mitola and Hart playing off the ball, those guys can really shoot it, can they defend well enough to play the 2 in the A10?

By: Bo Knows (705 posts) - 5/23/2015 4:22:49 PM

That's what we are about to find out Dude. But ML is a defense guy so he's not taking guys who can't guard a phone booth.

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 5/23/2015 9:00:37 PM

Thomas,

It's hard to track who has scholarships because more and more players keep announcing that they are transfering or given the time of the year it is - flunking out of school.

I also think that since the number of transfers has simply exploded, more schools are keeping a scholarship available in case a good player becomes available late in the process. I think more schools are going to be willing to do that even if some years they end up having to bank the scholarship for the next year. And if they do that, then they have the option to give the scholarship to a player that decides to transfer after the Fall semester.

And the better the team/school is the easier it is to hold a scholarship because they're more likely to have 11-12 good players anyway.

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/23/2015 10:03:12 PM

He's not playing guys who can't guard.  He's recruited several it turned out who couldn't, ergo they haven't yet found the court or are no longer in the program. 

That's why ideally you'd bring in a transfer 2 Guard who you know can.  But if ML thinks the answer/s is already on the roster, it would explain why he might not.  We shall see, either why I find it hard to believe we don't use that final scholarship, and without a true 2 guard on the roster, seems like that would be a good use of it.  If it goes to a 4 year big, sounds great too.
 

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 5/23/2015 11:52:38 PM

Occam's razor is a problem-solving principle devised by William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), who was an English Franciscanfriar and scholastic philosopher and theologian. The principle states that among competing hypotheses that predict equally well, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove to provide better predictions, but—in the absence of differences in predictive ability—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.

Thank you Wikipedia.

How does this apply to the discussion on transfers?

1) GW will have these wing/guards who could potentially play and contribute - Roland, Hart, Mitola, Swan, Paul, JoeMac.

2) GW has these guys who can play at the wing/guard spot though they might be bigger - Garino and Yuta.

3) So GW has 8 guys who can potentially play for periods of time at the wing/guard spot. 8 - For two spots in the lineup. Again - 8

4) After KevLar and Cavanaugh who does GW have to come off the bench who is rugged and physical and be able to rebound and defend against bigger players? Or start if one of those 2 guys get hurt? Cimino? - Great potential and maybe if he's gotten stronger. Yuta? Love him - is he really ready to bang with A-10 big men?

So how many assumptions do we have to make to say that a wing/guard should be ML's top priority for a transfer?

How many assumptions do we have to make to say that a big man should be ML's top priority for a transfer?

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/24/2015 12:22:54 AM

Your list of guards includes a lot guys you were very skeptical about days ago, rightfully so in several cases. 

We're an A10 team.  Did anyone here watch Davidson and Dayton take apart most of the A10 this year, how much rugged depth did they have? Did Dayton even have anyone over 6-6 period? Did Davidson start or play a single actually rugged frontcourt player? We have a big physical C and a very good 4, and we're going to see quite a bit of Larsen Yuta Garino just like we did last year, and Garino Tyler Larsen.  Largely 4 Guys for 3 spots, just like last year except with a big upgrade at the 4 spot and likely major improvement and readiness from Yuta.  Swan should get minutes this year, Cimino more minutes, maybe Goss too.

Even more frontcourt depth for us is universally agreed to be ideal here but did we not win 46 games and make 2 postseasons the last year, who was the rugged frontcourt depth on those teams? What did those two teams have that this team doesn't? Creek and Kethan?


 

 

By: THE DUDE (529 posts) - 5/24/2015 12:31:38 AM

(* 46 wins the last two years that is)

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