Board

Garcia-Ruiz wrote me back, still waiting on Ombudsman
Replies: 33

5/25/2013 12:04:24 AM
cagwu

Lonergan Midterm Grade = C-
Replies: 48

5/24/2013 11:42:26 PM
Just Killing Time

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/24/2013
Replies: 0

5/24/2013 10:51:20 PM
herve

The "Wink and Nod Club " ---A Parody
Replies: 23

5/24/2013 7:20:27 PM
Cutis

Gregg Ritchie Named Atlantic 10 Baseball Coach of the Year
Replies: 2

5/24/2013 12:32:32 PM
GWSB '11

Calling all Colonials (just got this email)
Replies: 9

5/24/2013 12:06:11 PM
NJ Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 2

5/24/2013 6:57:06 AM
Chicago Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 3

5/23/2013 11:29:33 PM
Chicago Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/23/2013
Replies: 0

5/23/2013 10:51:20 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NANA FOULLAND
Replies: 3

5/23/2013 10:36:35 PM
BM

Kenner League
Replies: 6

5/23/2013 6:28:46 PM
Tuna Can

RECRUIT: BONZIE COLSON
Replies: 9

5/23/2013 2:37:05 PM
BM

GW vs Maryland in BB&T
Replies: 49

5/23/2013 11:39:30 AM
BM

Kromah to transfer
Replies: 152

5/23/2013 6:14:17 AM
Abe

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/22/2013
Replies: 0

5/22/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

New Court Design
Replies: 33

5/22/2013 1:35:02 PM
rocket

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 1

5/22/2013 9:54:45 AM
MOCO Observer

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/21/2013
Replies: 0

5/21/2013 10:56:58 PM
herve

Talk about bad p.r.
Replies: 4

5/21/2013 5:58:17 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Love it
Replies: 4

5/21/2013 5:52:46 PM
ELJ

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 0

5/21/2013 4:19:17 PM
MOCO Observer

Is today the last day
Replies: 1

5/21/2013 3:00:57 PM
GWSB '11

RECRUIT: CJ KEYSER
Replies: 3

5/21/2013 10:02:29 AM
BM

RECRUIT: MARTIN GEBEN
Replies: 38

5/21/2013 9:52:12 AM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: MIKAL BRIDGES
Replies: 6

5/21/2013 9:48:11 AM
Florida Colonial

Who is on the team as of NOW?
Replies: 1

5/21/2013 9:30:54 AM
Old Prof

RECRUIT: JON DAVIS
Replies: 2

5/21/2013 12:57:02 AM
BM

Mikic graduates in 3 years (via @gw_mbb twitter)
Replies: 10

5/21/2013 12:55:13 AM
cagwu

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/20/2013
Replies: 0

5/20/2013 10:54:32 PM
herve

Official college football smack-talking thread
Replies: 587

5/20/2013 4:34:37 PM
GW Alum Abroad

David Pellom to Memphis
Replies: 44

5/20/2013 12:30:10 PM
donte

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/19/2013
Replies: 0

5/19/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NICK GRIFFIN
Replies: 101

5/19/2013 10:11:43 PM
CPots

RECRUIT: BYRON HAWKINS
Replies: 11

5/19/2013 1:05:54 PM
herve

Oct 4, 2014
Replies: 7

5/19/2013 10:22:56 AM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/18/2013
Replies: 0

5/18/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

Superstar added to Lonergan's facebook!
Replies: 3

5/18/2013 8:51:20 PM
Martiniboy

Why Next Year Is Pretty Darn Critical
Replies: 23

5/18/2013 6:04:37 PM
The MV

OT: Bo Jackson
Replies: 6

5/18/2013 5:41:01 PM
herve

RECRUIT: DEVIN ROBINSON
Replies: 6

5/18/2013 2:34:02 PM
BM

another possible transfer (immediately eligible)
Replies: 37

5/18/2013 12:33:07 PM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/17/2013
Replies: 0

5/17/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

OOC Schedule Thread
Replies: 14

5/17/2013 12:40:55 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/16/2013
Replies: 0

5/16/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

Several GW Women Get Another Year to Play
Replies: 5

5/16/2013 5:22:16 PM
ziik

George makes some headlines
Replies: 2

5/16/2013 11:05:09 AM
BM

Big George trying to get into Captain America 2
Replies: 0

5/16/2013 11:03:59 AM
squid

SJT -- Not a Bad Guy at All
Replies: 48

5/16/2013 10:51:33 AM
Tuna Can

Quick Question: Outstanding Offers
Replies: 7

5/16/2013 10:19:58 AM
wax daddy

what we know so far
Replies: 5

5/16/2013 8:40:31 AM
formerly boston pops

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/15/2013
Replies: 0

5/15/2013 10:51:58 PM
herve

could they boot us out of barclays?
Replies: 5

5/15/2013 10:03:01 PM
tk

RECRUIT: ANTON WATERS
Replies: 4

5/15/2013 9:37:20 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/14/2013
Replies: 0

5/14/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: TYLER NELSON
Replies: 8

5/14/2013 9:18:04 PM
BM

RECRUIT: DOMINIQUE BULL
Replies: 80

5/14/2013 4:47:57 PM
BM

Who is Lionel Coleman
Replies: 1

5/14/2013 4:47:43 PM
Phil_Raw_

SJT and Left Coast
Replies: 0

5/14/2013 10:36:58 AM
kdb sand diego

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/13/2013
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 10:52:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 34

5/13/2013 9:25:10 PM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: ANTHONY SWAN
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 4:51:10 PM
GCLY89

Rutgers Can't Catch a Break ...
Replies: 12

5/13/2013 4:41:57 PM
The Eagle Has Landed

RYAN MCCOY
Replies: 58

5/13/2013 4:16:10 PM
ATL Colonial

RECRUIT: RYAN LUTHER
Replies: 1

5/13/2013 2:17:37 PM
BM

for those of you looking for new digs....
Replies: 2

5/13/2013 12:59:03 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MIKE WILLIAMS
Replies: 7

5/13/2013 9:57:07 AM
BM

New Team
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 8:37:54 AM
Spotter

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/12/2013
Replies: 0

5/12/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

Happy Mother's Day-Mrs. Tallent,
Replies: 2

5/12/2013 10:19:02 PM
ziik

UVA Transfer-Paul Jesperson
Replies: 16

5/12/2013 9:54:08 PM
bam

"RECRUITS" tab currently broken, but NOTHING has been lost. will fix ASAP. sorry. nt
Replies: 6

5/12/2013 7:34:40 PM
herve

It's Lonergan
Replies: 99

5/11/2013 11:44:39 PM


gwhoops.com Digest - 5/11/2013
Replies: 0

5/11/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

GW about to Rope in another A10 Sport--Now back to your regularly scheduled angst
Replies: 17

5/11/2013 4:50:39 PM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/10/2013
Replies: 0

5/10/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ISIAH TRIPP
Replies: 5

5/10/2013 2:21:41 PM
BM

RECRUIT: JAMAL ROBINSON
Replies: 5

5/10/2013 8:43:41 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/9/2013
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 10:51:28 PM
herve

Ryan McCoy from Manhattan?
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 4:45:47 PM
Steven

Maurice Creek transferring from Indiana
Replies: 26

5/9/2013 4:15:39 PM
GCLY89

RECRUIT: ALSTON THOMPSON
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 10:16:06 AM
BM

RECRUIT: TRE CAMPBELL
Replies: 18

5/9/2013 9:02:37 AM
BM

Davidson to the A-10
Replies: 20

5/9/2013 6:17:07 AM
gonzo

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/8/2013
Replies: 0

5/8/2013 10:52:06 PM
herve

Lonergan In Lithuania
Replies: 52

5/8/2013 5:16:27 PM
Don't Quote Me

Does the name Marcus Joseph ring a bell?
Replies: 6

5/8/2013 12:29:26 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/7/2013
Replies: 0

5/7/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

Another recruit lost
Replies: 3

5/7/2013 6:38:50 PM
Florida Colonial

Where Winners Migrate?
Replies: 0

5/7/2013 2:42:20 PM
Dootie Bubble

Another recruit lost
Replies: 6

5/7/2013 1:44:12 PM
Florida Colonial

Taking all the fun and mystery out of Herve's other passion...
Replies: 7

5/7/2013 1:27:37 PM
FLA

D-league action
Replies: 4

5/7/2013 1:00:27 PM
The MV

Kevin Larsen's military service
Replies: 9

5/7/2013 8:41:37 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/6/2013
Replies: 0

5/6/2013 10:52:14 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MAURICE CREEK
Replies: 13

5/6/2013 5:27:58 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/5/2013
Replies: 0

5/5/2013 10:52:15 PM
herve

I. Am. So. Shocked.
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 7:40:58 PM
herve

Travon Landry
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 6:29:00 PM
Tennessee Colonial

RECRUIT: JJ EPPS
Replies: 4

5/5/2013 7:56:04 AM
BM

Tweet About Larsen
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 7:15:27 AM
CT Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/4/2013
Replies: 0

5/4/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JUSTIN EDWARDS
Replies: 9

5/4/2013 3:39:49 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/3/2013
Replies: 0

5/3/2013 10:52:01 PM
herve

Does Lonergan...???
Replies: 6

5/3/2013 7:58:13 PM
GDUB4

RECRUIT: JULIAN DEBOSE
Replies: 11

5/3/2013 5:49:47 PM
BM

Real Basketball Shit--BM's guard minute projections on a Creek signing and no others
Replies: 15

5/3/2013 2:11:40 PM
Tuna Can

RECRUIT: PAUL JORGENSEN
Replies: 9

5/3/2013 10:22:20 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/2/2013
Replies: 0

5/2/2013 10:51:33 PM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/1/2013
Replies: 0

5/1/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

Eli Carter gets his release from Rutgers
Replies: 9

5/1/2013 8:06:29 PM
DEA

RECRUIT: GABE LEVIN
Replies: 74

5/1/2013 6:43:28 PM
BM

Transfer list
Replies: 16

5/1/2013 3:33:59 PM
BM

GW Med School (OT)
Replies: 3

5/1/2013 1:04:46 PM
NJ Colonial

ML should stop off in Russia and pick up a new assistant
Replies: 0

5/1/2013 12:39:40 PM
george the hippo hunter

RECRUIT: ROBERT CARTWRIGHT
Replies: 2

5/1/2013 8:57:38 AM
mike K

Mark Schlabach
Replies: 1

5/1/2013 3:45:17 AM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/30/2013
Replies: 0

4/30/2013 10:51:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: CHANCELLOR BARNARD
Replies: 2

4/30/2013 9:15:30 AM
BM

RECRUIT: LENNARD FREEMAN
Replies: 40

4/30/2013 7:36:37 AM
Mike K

Ms. Traynor-In her Own Words
Replies: 17

4/30/2013 4:48:51 AM
ziik

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/29/2013
Replies: 0

4/29/2013 10:52:55 PM
herve

RECRUIT: BRADY ELLINGSON
Replies: 2

4/29/2013 8:22:36 PM
Florida Colonial

Roster for next season on 4/26 (this thread is actually about the NY Jets)
Replies: 25

4/29/2013 4:05:24 PM
GDub4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/28/2013
Replies: 0

4/28/2013 10:53:18 PM
herve

Men's Tennis Tied 3-3 in A-10 Finals
Replies: 2

4/28/2013 1:33:31 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/27/2013
Replies: 0

4/27/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

EYBL
Replies: 0

4/27/2013 11:29:07 AM
GW Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/26/2013
Replies: 0

4/26/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 4

4/26/2013 8:16:22 PM
LA Fan

"George Mason president delivers new vision" (WaPo)
Replies: 1

4/26/2013 5:05:15 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARQUIS WRIGHT
Replies: 35

4/26/2013 2:20:19 PM
BM

RECRUIT: MIGUEL CARTAGENA
Replies: 63

4/26/2013 11:23:07 AM
JamonRye

RECRUIT: LAVON LONG
Replies: 13

4/26/2013 10:20:35 AM
BM

Hope you are happy with your purchase Herve!
Replies: 1

4/26/2013 7:07:31 AM
GW Alum Abroad

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/25/2013
Replies: 0

4/25/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 0

4/25/2013 3:07:12 PM
LA Fan

Jabari Hinds WVA
Replies: 2

4/25/2013 11:15:59 AM
DEA

Why did we honor David pellom as a graduating senior
Replies: 8

4/25/2013 9:35:01 AM
Neil

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/24/2013
Replies: 0

4/24/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

RECRUIT: RASHARD KELLY
Replies: 8

4/24/2013 8:37:48 PM
Florida Colonial

Give mike the benefit. He is making close to president knapp. He will not f@@k it up like kh did.
Replies: 5

4/24/2013 8:14:18 PM
Neil

10-21
Replies: 7

4/24/2013 1:13:07 PM
What?

30 second shot clock?
Replies: 9

4/24/2013 9:26:56 AM
GW Fan

RECRUIT: ERIC CARTER
Replies: 0

4/24/2013 8:56:58 AM
BM

another 1 that got away-Mark Williams
Replies: 3

4/24/2013 5:09:44 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/23/2013
Replies: 0

4/23/2013 10:51:24 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 0

4/23/2013 9:15:06 PM
Florida Colonial

Cap Classic Rosters
Replies: 4

4/23/2013 8:42:09 PM
BM

Dooley to Florida Gulf Coast
Replies: 37

4/23/2013 10:30:55 AM
Poog

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/22/2013
Replies: 0

4/22/2013 10:52:28 PM
herve

The Non Nigel Johnson thread
Replies: 12

4/22/2013 10:03:47 PM
Florida Colonial

Phil Hochberg
Replies: 9

4/22/2013 5:30:23 PM
BM

Gun Control(OT)
Replies: 59

4/22/2013 9:10:47 AM
Steven

GW Baseball vs Fordham
Replies: 3

4/21/2013 11:12:02 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/21/2013
Replies: 0

4/21/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

RECRUIT: EVAN TAYLOR
Replies: 1

4/21/2013 10:53:01 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/20/2013
Replies: 0

4/20/2013 10:53:46 PM
herve

Official NLI announcement
Replies: 22

4/20/2013 7:53:38 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ANDRE WALKER
Replies: 4

4/20/2013 8:23:06 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/19/2013
Replies: 0

4/19/2013 10:54:11 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JOSH HEARLIHY
Replies: 21

4/19/2013 6:27:49 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ASHLEY WILLIAMS
Replies: 6

4/19/2013 5:40:55 PM
BM

Davidson on the verge of joining A-10
Replies: 20

4/19/2013 11:46:08 AM
GCLY89

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/18/2013
Replies: 0

4/18/2013 10:55:01 PM
herve

How many scholarships are left to give out?
Replies: 15

4/18/2013 12:57:59 PM
NewGWFan

For You TT "Haters"
Replies: 8

4/18/2013 12:48:47 PM
ziik

RECRUIT: Jerome Seagars
Replies: 39

4/18/2013 12:33:21 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/17/2013
Replies: 0

4/17/2013 11:40:22 PM
herve

Sutton Submits Name for Vacant FL Gulf Coast Head Job
Replies: 29

4/17/2013 8:00:08 PM
herve

Quevyn Winters and 4 others leaving Duquesne
Replies: 4

4/17/2013 3:52:49 PM
Free Quebec

If it Quacks Like a Duck ... (OT)
Replies: 2

4/17/2013 12:43:38 PM
Eugene

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/16/2013
Replies: 0

4/16/2013 10:51:37 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARK WILLIAMS
Replies: 16

4/16/2013 9:49:32 AM
CPots

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/15/2013
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 10:58:45 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ANTHONY PATE
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 9:48:29 AM
BM

Recruit coming this weekend
Replies: 57

4/15/2013 2:48:11 AM
DEA

GW Washington Post Story
Replies: 19

4/15/2013 2:42:54 AM
LA Fan

More of This!
Replies: 1

4/15/2013 1:01:30 AM
BM

welcome Davidson!
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 12:57:39 AM
NJ Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/14/2013
Replies: 0

4/14/2013 10:57:07 PM
herve

Rutgers
Replies: 8

4/14/2013 2:18:37 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/13/2013
Replies: 0

4/13/2013 10:53:00 PM
herve

A possible guard target/transfer
Replies: 3

4/13/2013 8:04:03 PM
Florida Colonial

Hopefully We Will Get Some Recruiting News From This.
Replies: 0

4/13/2013 11:32:48 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/12/2013
Replies: 0

4/12/2013 10:53:43 PM
herve

Stadium Journey review of the Smith Center
Replies: 10

4/12/2013 1:19:17 PM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/11/2013
Replies: 0

4/11/2013 10:53:47 PM
herve

Questions That Must Be Asked ...
Replies: 55

4/11/2013 10:22:20 AM
CBO

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/10/2013
Replies: 0

4/10/2013 10:55:52 PM
herve

Cross Jon Severe off the list
Replies: 2

4/10/2013 12:39:20 PM
GW21

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/9/2013
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 10:51:26 PM
herve

OT--Who Wins? Who Cares?
Replies: 7

4/9/2013 8:27:23 PM
ziik

coaching changes 2013
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 4:04:18 PM
GWSB '11

VCU pre-season #14
Replies: 2

4/9/2013 1:54:59 PM
herve

Play nice
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 11:54:08 AM
Old Prof

Who am I?
Replies: 8

4/9/2013 9:31:33 AM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/8/2013
Replies: 0

4/8/2013 10:55:27 PM
herve

Did you all know this?
Replies: 13

4/8/2013 6:37:07 PM
BACCAS92

Hobbs & Mid-Major Coaches
Replies: 7

4/8/2013 10:45:31 AM
Wax Daddy

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/7/2013
Replies: 0

4/7/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 5

4/7/2013 11:52:56 AM
Florida Colonial

Nick Griffin Third Team All-Met
Replies: 13

4/7/2013 10:00:05 AM
Yinka dont Stinka

Honestly! I can't leave the country for one second without you guys messing everything up! nt
Replies: 3

4/7/2013 8:13:40 AM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/6/2013
Replies: 0

4/6/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 0

4/6/2013 7:32:02 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/5/2013
Replies: 0

4/5/2013 10:53:17 PM
herve

Here's a good upper: Garino interview
Replies: 5

4/5/2013 4:14:31 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/4/2013
Replies: 0

4/4/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Lonergan got what he wanted
Replies: 69

4/4/2013 10:34:12 PM
Knew this was coming

Lehman with the Save
Replies: 0

4/4/2013 10:07:15 PM
Poog

RECRUIT: THERENCE MAYIMBA
Replies: 5

4/4/2013 9:26:39 PM
CPots

Backup Point Guard
Replies: 29

4/4/2013 7:27:29 PM
bobo

Hoping the worst is behind us
Replies: 7

4/4/2013 2:56:07 PM
NewGWFan

Jamail JOnes
Replies: 4

4/4/2013 12:26:29 AM
DEA

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/3/2013
Replies: 0

4/3/2013 10:52:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JORDAN ABDURRAOOF
Replies: 9

4/3/2013 8:13:58 PM
Mike K

Random but infuriating
Replies: 9

4/3/2013 5:20:33 PM
Steven

Sounds weird but
Replies: 23

4/3/2013 4:43:11 PM
DEA

American University
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 3:20:41 PM
NewGWFan

Rutgers' fires their basketball coach
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 12:06:57 PM
neil

Some Good News Today [Baseball] PART II
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 9:55:35 AM
CJS Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/2/2013
Replies: 0

4/2/2013 10:51:07 PM
herve

Lonergan friend headed to Siena
Replies: 5

4/2/2013 7:58:15 PM
Poog

Status heading into Spring Signing
Replies: 13

4/2/2013 11:10:08 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/1/2013
Replies: 0

4/1/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

scam or legit? (OT)
Replies: 2

4/1/2013 6:57:25 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Urban problems
Replies: 9

4/1/2013 6:07:11 PM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 3/31/2013
Replies: 0

3/31/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

Since this guy has also bashed GW in the past a well
8/13/2008 1:03:00 PM
Poster: herve

WOW is all I have to say.



8/8/2008 2:06:00 PM
Poster: GW Alum Abroad

You would think that American media companies would have learned their lesson after that radio guy launched a racist slur attack on the Rutgers' basketball team. Sad that we live in an era where being dumb is the key to getting the bully platform of media eposure.


8/8/2008 4:57:00 PM
Poster: ELJ

It's a free country, so Doyel can write almost anything he pleases.  That said, he should slither back into his hole ... and stay there.


8/8/2008 6:54:00 PM
Poster: Dootie Bubble

Doyhole's not the problem.  People write stupid shit on the web all the time.  CBS is the problem for paying him to make arguments your average 8 year old would find trite.


8/8/2008 10:53:00 PM
Poster: Mike K

Isn't he's saying that he feels if you particpate in the Olympics, you should play for the country where you are a citizen, and you should not become a citizen for the sake of playing?   



8/11/2008 11:42:00 PM
Poster: Greg

I think to compare a bigoted slur of a racially similar team made by a controversial radio man to the rant of a well-written columnist who not once invokes prejudicial epithets in his tirade misses the mark completely. Yeah, he's definitely harsh, but that opinion I think holds a lot of weight in the community. To run because you love running is one thing. To move to a country to run because you love that country is also something. To run away from tyranny or despotism is also another thing. But to run for a stranger, to run for a nation for nothing more than commercial attraction, is wrong. The Olympics is supposed to be the last event untouched by money appeals, and while it has certainly succumbed to marketing, merchandise, and the NBC monster eating it to death, I would hope that leaving your nation simply because money or fame of another would be the last frontier. (Obviously running can be substituted by other sports). Then again, the author doesn't also know the motives of running for the players he's mentioned, save a few. So it's all a matter of perspective I guess.


8/12/2008 10:03:00 AM
Poster: herve

I can’t let this die. Some of the eamples who chooses to write about are beyond absurd!

 

Bernard Lagat is a U.S. citizen, married to an American and has an American-born son. He has lived, trained and paid taes in the U.S. for the past 10 years, including graduating from an American university. He petitioned to run in a U.S. singlet 7 years ago, but Kenya would not release him.

 

Meb Keflezighi’s family came over to the U.S. when he was a teenager, fleeing unrest in Eritrea. He’s lived, trained, been educated and gotten married to an American in the past 16 years he’s lived in the U.S. He NEVER competed for Eritrea or any other country other than the U.S.

 

Khalid Khannouchi has lived in the U.S. for the past 10 years and is married to an American. I have made no bones about my dislike for Khannouchi’s remarkable selfishness and ecuse-laden racing, but the fact remains he IS a U.S. citizen and has been for quite some time. He competed for Morocco for all of two years, doing very little in the process. After he became a U.S. citizen, he began to set marathon world records. Now Khannouchi DID pull some crazy strings to hurry his citizenship along prior to the 2004 Olympics, then proceeded to claim injury prior to the Trials only to race for big bucks in Chicago a few months later after his injury miraculously healed quickly.

 

Now if you want to bash this whole country-swapping thing look no further than the countries of Qatar or Bahrain where the government’s not only pay each other for athletes, the athletes switch religions because of it! That is the real story. Those athletes and governments are pure pay-to-play.

 

But let’s look into some “good, honest” Americans:

 

Gabe Jennings hasn’t held a job in years, has had no results whatsoever to speak of, but consistently gets grand-fathered into races, including the Trials, without qualifying times, at the epense of his fellow countrymen….all this despite bashing the U.S. and the Olympics repeatedly in interviews.

 

Alan Webb. Ah! Alan Webb. There hasn’t been as selfish, weak athlete since Suzy Favor Hamilton—Phil Graham could appreciate a fine American like Webb. Webb has had nearly every advantage and hand-out imaginable, but has NEVER produced on the world stage and always follows up his myriad of major disappointments with an endless train of ecuses and childish behaviors. Webb doesn’t care about his country or the Olympics. Webb cares about himself, his frat-boy house and junior-high level coach who puff him up. He’s the kind of American representative we’re all looking for….plus he ALWAYS learns from his mistakes.

 

Anthony Famiglietti is known by NO ONE, but he’s a talented steeplechaser, the best America has to offer and a dark horse for bronze medal. Famiglietti’s Olympic Trials victory interview included a diatribe against nationalism, the Olympics and the U.S. and all that it stands for. He basically sad he was embarrassed to represent the U.S. and did not like the Olympics and what it had become and was considering not going.

 

Adam Goucher is more injured than Barbaro….ALL THE TIME, yet somehow the running press lifts him up every four years as this great American hope….mainly because his wife is actually a good runner. Goucher complains, whines, moans and cries until he gets what he wants: a new coach, a new training facility, spot in the Olympic Trials 5K AND 10K despite not qualifying, being too hurt to run either or the fact it bumped fellow Americans out of the race who had earned it. Yeah, he’s a “good American”.



8/12/2008 10:28:00 AM
Poster: mailvan

One of the reader responses to the article hits the nail on the head.  Not once does Doyel criticize the IOC for establishing a framework filled with shortcuts and loopholes that are perfectly legal.  Personally, I believe that if JR Henderson lives in Japan and is a Japanese citizen, he's more than entitled to play for Japan despite having been born and raised an American.  However, for Chris Kaman to play on the German team for no other reason than his great grandparents were born there is impossible to justify.  Unfortunately, Doyel isn't bright enough to differentiate among the many eamples he cites, instead preferring to lump all of them as being wrong with the athlete being at fault.  This was truly a lazy, poorly thought-out column.



8/12/2008 10:54:00 AM
Poster: lowpost

how about jr pinnock playing for panama's national team?

and i seem to recall mike sampson trying out for great britain's olympic team (can't remember if he made it).

from the gw perspective, are we throwing stones at our own glass house?




8/12/2008 11:56:00 AM
Poster: Dootie Bubble

He's just pissed because a woman born in Lesotho but raised since she was three in Boise beat him out for the last spot on the US Picking Peanuts Out of Your Asshole team.


8/12/2008 12:42:00 PM
Poster: GW Alum Abroad

eonophobia is bigotry and to dismiss American citizens competing for the USA as not representing him (as he says in his lede) is bigoted, stupid and unworthy of print, online or otherwise. He is playing to the immigrant bashing crowd. As for Olympic mercenaries, had he wanted to complain about that he should have asked an editor "how can I complain about turncoats without sounding like a complete dolt?" before writing this drivel. And how come he does not take on Zola Budd, who in 1984 used a nationality switch to become elligible for the Olympics since her country (Apartheid-era South Africa) was barred from competing? Oh yeah, she was white.


8/12/2008 1:18:00 PM
Poster: Mentzinger

Not worthy of print but custom-created for online


8/12/2008 1:26:00 PM
Poster: Dolphin Michael

GAA,

That would have taken some research and frankly some historical understanding of international sports.

The majority of the world is very comfortable with this sort of transitory sports participation. It happens all the time in soccer/football. We have done the same since whenever in the Olympics. It is just rare when it goes the other way.

As far as the racist aspects, welcome to 2008. As someone said this past week... possibly on Countdown, as long as you don't say the N word, it ain't that bad (did someone already mention this?)

DM


8/12/2008 3:14:00 PM
Poster: notta hater

I do not want to steal anybody's line, but Sinbad once said: "If the Indians knew then what they know now, they would have never let the pilgrims off the boat."  What the heck is an American?  Who are we to say what a German is?  I missed the part of the article that pointed out that Hakeem the Dream played for the US in 96 or that Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands get to send representatives and play the US in events.  He needs to get over himself.


8/12/2008 7:31:00 PM
Poster: GW Alum Abroad

Maybe Doyel should join the men's basketball team from Spain.

http://www.yahoo.com/s/933707



8/12/2008 10:22:00 PM
Poster: Long Suffering Fan

Put me on the side of the hated Doyel on this one.    I see no racism here.  You play for your country or don't play at all.  Both ways.  If you are German, play for Germany  If you are Chinese, play for China.  If you are Russian, play for Russia.  We are no talking about German, Chinese or Russian Americans, but rather nationals of those countries.  And if you are American, play for the USA. I will even give the benefit of the doubt to tose with dual citizenship.  I have always hated the hypocricy of the Olympics.  Most of these athlees are in it for self, not for country.  We all know that.   Americans playing for Russia?   C'mon.  At least lets pretend.  (Who was the Puerto Rican American basketball player (I am thinking Marquette) about 30 years ago who did not make the American team then almost single handedly beat the USA for the Puerto Rican team?  I am ok with that.  But American's playing for Japan?  Jeez.



8/13/2008 12:03:00 AM
Poster: GW '09

I agree with you, LSF, and I think that you should play for the country in which you have citizenship. As Herve pointed out, a number of the guys Doyel blasted are American citizens. They're just as American as you or I. Is Doyel saying that only natural-born Americans should be in the Olympics. That's where he comes across as enophobic and narrow-minded.


8/13/2008 9:36:00 AM
Poster: notta hater

LSF - his name was a very Puerto Rican - Butch Lee.  The 1976 team which was coached by Dean Smith featured a roster with 4 or 5 UNC players and a shooter from Duke ( Tate Armstrong who could light it up but played no D and did not have the benefit of a 3 point line) - although many of the players were future hall of famers (Dantley and Buckner) they had two remarkable point guards - Buckner and Ford.  Lee was the odd man out and got his sweet revenge the following March when he beat UNC to win the NCAA tournament .  I still think that the focus of the article is flawed and sloppy - if he is talking about athletic mercernaries, then he has a great point - but for others who are using their legal status as a citizen to compte in the Olympics to be able to compete against the world's best (not money ball) - I think he is missing the boat.  His flaw is that he is the arbiter of what a citizen of a country is.  What about Jewish people? As I understand it, Isreal claims each Jewish person is born under its flag and is a potential citizen no matter which soil they were born upon.  Would he have been offended if Mark Spitz swam for Isreal in 1972 Munich games because he felt a strong affinity for his spiritual home?  What really is a citizen?  Who draws the borders and makes the rules?  I recall more than one Isreal athlete who was killed by the terrorists/cowards was born in the US - where is your moral outrage towards these "turncoats"?  How about participants who could not compete because border disputes and flagging issues prevented their countries from being recognized and compete at all (Rhodesia in 1972 and 1976, the US in 1980, and the Bloc in 1984) ?  I have less of a problem with some of these people participating in whatever uniform they want as I objected to watching Stevenson from Cuba knock the *%#@ out of 19 year olds as an "amateur" boer or the Soviet "amateur" basketball teams play 18 and 19 year olds.  Clearly, he is on the mark with the mercenary-pro athlete issue - he is dead wrong about the sweeping generalization regarding the others.


8/13/2008 12:09:00 PM
Poster: ChrisW

Notta...can't say it better than that.  You've again said the same thing that I was thinking...you just said it better.

The only thing that I can add (and I didn't even read the blog past the first couple of lines!) is that the Olympic committee needs to change the rules...or we need to stop complaining about it.  Either fi the problem, or realize that the Olympics has forever been an unfair process, and will always be so unless and until they change the rules.  And let's face it, anything short of true communist rules, we will be left with the bigger countries with the most money always being on top for the most part.

Chris


8/13/2008 12:29:00 PM
Poster: herve

link

On athletes switching countries and running for someone else:

Bernard Lagat: We've all seen that happen with someone who's suddenly running for Bahrain or Qatar, but that's not my story. I came to the U.S. in 1996 to get an education. I studied and I got my green card in 1998. I was running for Kenya for a long time when I finally became a U.S. citizen. I did that because I was thinking past running. I wanted to establish a life in the U.S. Now, as a runner, I want to represent my country in the highest level competitions I can. When I'm on the podium and the national anthem is played, I feel the same pride and emotion I felt when I was a Kenyan. I'm part of American culture now. I have a lot of pride in the revolution in American track and field that is going so well. We have guys now who are strong in the marathon and the 10,000 and 5000 and 1500. Some back in my old country might be feeling some frustration when they see the American flag raised, but I feel only pride. I live in America now, I have my family here, and we are very happy. I got my scholarship at Washington State through American ta payers, and I have always been really thankful for that, and trying to pay back the ta payers ever since.



8/13/2008 1:03:00 PM
Poster: squid

The article is stupidly written (it sounds like Ed Anger from the Weekly World News), but I agree with what I guess is his underlying point, that it's lame for Americans to play elsewhere, if they went there just to play in the Olympics. If you moved somewhere and have a life there and became a citizen of that country, then ok. Coaching I am less concerned about, since there are foreign coaches in a lot of sports, like soccer.

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