FQ, oh you noticed that too? 

Actually, all I wanted to say is that if GW finishes 5-9 in the conference, that means we left two conference games off the schedule in which case I'd like everyone fired. :)

to danjsport - apparently there are a lot of posters "not in their right mind" if you read through the threads.

to FQ - I am glad you think of yourself as balanced. You never seem to want to want to take a position that you can't backpedal fast enough from so I guess that means you're "balanced".  And yes, I could be the previously banned poster simply because you said so. Wow, Sherlock Holmes has nothing on you.

to MV - since you actually are the previously banned poster perhaps you can correct  your buddy FQ. You don't want me messing with your street cred here. 

to Mentzinger - You surely don't need my approval to post anything you would like. I actually enjoy the regular dose of comedy and pomposity.

Good to see BSeca back with his usual sense of rational debate on anything that suggests GW basketball is less than perfect.

Good points by Danj and Mentz about the tests that Hobbs has been given and failed, including Oregon State, which I believe lost by 51 to a power like Seattle or something like that.

Mentz has it pegged eaclty right about KH failing to own up to any of this:

"The recent history (which I don't remember you being around for) is to stubbornly complain about not being able to get your NBA-level talent while dodging and shifting blame for game miscues that would make a Pee Wee league coach blush."

Though one could argue that Pee Wee league coaches would have been dismissed already for the lack of coaching in critical situations.

"The best defense is a good offense"

Seneca, I find it fascinating that ever since the "controversy" (frankly, I don't know what to refer to it as) that resulted in Blue Seats being banned from this board has died down, you are the only poster that continues to insinuate that BS and I are one and the same, while at the same time, there are a growing number of posters who seem to feel that perhaps you and BS are one and the same.  All I could hope for is that you continue to post, because each time that you do, you continue to build my case.

FQ, start of the real test was the first conf game.  if the first 5 conf games were played in the middle of the schedule rather than the beginning would those 5 games not have counted?  what abt Fordham and other games we should win would they count?  KH probably only wants to count victories.

MV, KH can't coach.  6 MEN ON THE COURT, twice.  does NCAA keep records on that?

the best way to beat SLU is to score more points than SLU

Actually, that was a great post by Mentz. (Not the last one but the one before that.)  Unlike so many of you who sound like crying babies, Mentz actually took the time to list the points as to why KH has cast a negative shadow on some supporters of the program.  Let's look at them individually:

1) KH is arrogant.  Well, I think I need some specifics.  Most coaches have some arrogance to them; it's part of their competitive nature.  Gerry Gimelstob was arrogant.  Karl Hobbs, I'm not quite convinced.

2) KH coaches for raw resume-padding wins.  Agreed.

3) KH is self-promoting.  Really?  How?  I believe his on-court antics are truly a part of who he is and are not designed to make him the focus of attention.  Yes, he often becomes this focus but I think he really just gets caught up in the game.  Did you have something else in mind?

4) KH makes silly comments to the press.  Well, he has.  He wears his emotions on his sleeve and would be better-served if he was tutored on how to speak to the press without giving brutally honest answers (or using the word overachieve) every time.

5) KH recruits players who have endangered the reputation of the university.  I can't accept this at face value.  Did nobody...SJT, Dr. Chernak, JK, know about KH's recruiting efforts?  Does GW have an admissions department that is allowed to deny admission to prospective basketball players?  If the reputation of the university was damaged, there are plenty of people who can take responsibility for this.  At least in the case of KH, his motives were easy to comprehend.

6) KH blames others when things go wrong.  If you're of the mindset that KH should be let go, this should be the reason why.  KH is compensated to be a leader.  To help shape the lives of young men.  Far more often than not, KH does just this.  You can't keep getting players to want to play for you without this quality.  Some here have grown fond of the phrase "throw a player under the bus" to the point where it's used even when not true.  Within the past two weeks, I don't think that KH has thrown either Travis or Damian under a bus.  However, where I do agree with this point is KH's seemingly inability to blame himself (at least publicly) as well as his reluctance to protect his players.  Unfortunately, he does tend to use a  "they vs. me" approach when talking about difficult situations, and the notion of a happy GW basketball family really does not seem to eist in the slightest.  I don't know if KH blames others as much as he doesn't stand up for others.  There is a difference.

So, I'm left to conclude that Mentzinger's scorecard produced mied results.  There is clearly truth to what's being criticized about KH, to some etent.  At the same time, when these factors are coupled with the team's performance, are you left with the feeling that he should be gone?  I personally do not feel that way while others obviously do.  As someone pointed out, it will be up to only a few individuals to make that call.  But for fodder on a message board, it does make for interesting debates.  

Not much more to say on Karl Hobbs many deficiencies as a coach and human being in recent years,  though Mentz provided an accurate summary. And sure that some crazy mistake or blown lead in the near future will provide more grist for the mill.

Though don't know what could convince some people of Hobbs' flaws after a few good years where he now has totally lost it, along with any rational efforts at dealing with his players, the press or the fans (outside of canned response prepared for him and demanded by others in the university.

That said, there's an even deeper issue. John Thomps*n, the elder, the cowardliest coach in eistence, should never be referred in any sort of positive light or without the world EVIL preceeding his name.

All GW fans with any memory should agree on that.