Board

Garcia-Ruiz wrote me back, still waiting on Ombudsman
Replies: 33

5/25/2013 12:04:24 AM
cagwu

Lonergan Midterm Grade = C-
Replies: 48

5/24/2013 11:42:26 PM
Just Killing Time

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/24/2013
Replies: 0

5/24/2013 10:51:20 PM
herve

The "Wink and Nod Club " ---A Parody
Replies: 23

5/24/2013 7:20:27 PM
Cutis

Gregg Ritchie Named Atlantic 10 Baseball Coach of the Year
Replies: 2

5/24/2013 12:32:32 PM
GWSB '11

Calling all Colonials (just got this email)
Replies: 9

5/24/2013 12:06:11 PM
NJ Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 2

5/24/2013 6:57:06 AM
Chicago Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 3

5/23/2013 11:29:33 PM
Chicago Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/23/2013
Replies: 0

5/23/2013 10:51:20 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NANA FOULLAND
Replies: 3

5/23/2013 10:36:35 PM
BM

Kenner League
Replies: 6

5/23/2013 6:28:46 PM
Tuna Can

RECRUIT: BONZIE COLSON
Replies: 9

5/23/2013 2:37:05 PM
BM

GW vs Maryland in BB&T
Replies: 49

5/23/2013 11:39:30 AM
BM

Kromah to transfer
Replies: 152

5/23/2013 6:14:17 AM
Abe

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/22/2013
Replies: 0

5/22/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

New Court Design
Replies: 33

5/22/2013 1:35:02 PM
rocket

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 1

5/22/2013 9:54:45 AM
MOCO Observer

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/21/2013
Replies: 0

5/21/2013 10:56:58 PM
herve

Talk about bad p.r.
Replies: 4

5/21/2013 5:58:17 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Love it
Replies: 4

5/21/2013 5:52:46 PM
ELJ

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 0

5/21/2013 4:19:17 PM
MOCO Observer

Is today the last day
Replies: 1

5/21/2013 3:00:57 PM
GWSB '11

RECRUIT: CJ KEYSER
Replies: 3

5/21/2013 10:02:29 AM
BM

RECRUIT: MARTIN GEBEN
Replies: 38

5/21/2013 9:52:12 AM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: MIKAL BRIDGES
Replies: 6

5/21/2013 9:48:11 AM
Florida Colonial

Who is on the team as of NOW?
Replies: 1

5/21/2013 9:30:54 AM
Old Prof

RECRUIT: JON DAVIS
Replies: 2

5/21/2013 12:57:02 AM
BM

Mikic graduates in 3 years (via @gw_mbb twitter)
Replies: 10

5/21/2013 12:55:13 AM
cagwu

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/20/2013
Replies: 0

5/20/2013 10:54:32 PM
herve

Official college football smack-talking thread
Replies: 587

5/20/2013 4:34:37 PM
GW Alum Abroad

David Pellom to Memphis
Replies: 44

5/20/2013 12:30:10 PM
donte

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/19/2013
Replies: 0

5/19/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NICK GRIFFIN
Replies: 101

5/19/2013 10:11:43 PM
CPots

RECRUIT: BYRON HAWKINS
Replies: 11

5/19/2013 1:05:54 PM
herve

Oct 4, 2014
Replies: 7

5/19/2013 10:22:56 AM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/18/2013
Replies: 0

5/18/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

Superstar added to Lonergan's facebook!
Replies: 3

5/18/2013 8:51:20 PM
Martiniboy

Why Next Year Is Pretty Darn Critical
Replies: 23

5/18/2013 6:04:37 PM
The MV

OT: Bo Jackson
Replies: 6

5/18/2013 5:41:01 PM
herve

RECRUIT: DEVIN ROBINSON
Replies: 6

5/18/2013 2:34:02 PM
BM

another possible transfer (immediately eligible)
Replies: 37

5/18/2013 12:33:07 PM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/17/2013
Replies: 0

5/17/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

OOC Schedule Thread
Replies: 14

5/17/2013 12:40:55 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/16/2013
Replies: 0

5/16/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

Several GW Women Get Another Year to Play
Replies: 5

5/16/2013 5:22:16 PM
ziik

George makes some headlines
Replies: 2

5/16/2013 11:05:09 AM
BM

Big George trying to get into Captain America 2
Replies: 0

5/16/2013 11:03:59 AM
squid

SJT -- Not a Bad Guy at All
Replies: 48

5/16/2013 10:51:33 AM
Tuna Can

Quick Question: Outstanding Offers
Replies: 7

5/16/2013 10:19:58 AM
wax daddy

what we know so far
Replies: 5

5/16/2013 8:40:31 AM
formerly boston pops

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/15/2013
Replies: 0

5/15/2013 10:51:58 PM
herve

could they boot us out of barclays?
Replies: 5

5/15/2013 10:03:01 PM
tk

RECRUIT: ANTON WATERS
Replies: 4

5/15/2013 9:37:20 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/14/2013
Replies: 0

5/14/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: TYLER NELSON
Replies: 8

5/14/2013 9:18:04 PM
BM

RECRUIT: DOMINIQUE BULL
Replies: 80

5/14/2013 4:47:57 PM
BM

Who is Lionel Coleman
Replies: 1

5/14/2013 4:47:43 PM
Phil_Raw_

SJT and Left Coast
Replies: 0

5/14/2013 10:36:58 AM
kdb sand diego

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/13/2013
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 10:52:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 34

5/13/2013 9:25:10 PM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: ANTHONY SWAN
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 4:51:10 PM
GCLY89

Rutgers Can't Catch a Break ...
Replies: 12

5/13/2013 4:41:57 PM
The Eagle Has Landed

RYAN MCCOY
Replies: 58

5/13/2013 4:16:10 PM
ATL Colonial

RECRUIT: RYAN LUTHER
Replies: 1

5/13/2013 2:17:37 PM
BM

for those of you looking for new digs....
Replies: 2

5/13/2013 12:59:03 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MIKE WILLIAMS
Replies: 7

5/13/2013 9:57:07 AM
BM

New Team
Replies: 0

5/13/2013 8:37:54 AM
Spotter

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/12/2013
Replies: 0

5/12/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

Happy Mother's Day-Mrs. Tallent,
Replies: 2

5/12/2013 10:19:02 PM
ziik

UVA Transfer-Paul Jesperson
Replies: 16

5/12/2013 9:54:08 PM
bam

"RECRUITS" tab currently broken, but NOTHING has been lost. will fix ASAP. sorry. nt
Replies: 6

5/12/2013 7:34:40 PM
herve

It's Lonergan
Replies: 99

5/11/2013 11:44:39 PM


gwhoops.com Digest - 5/11/2013
Replies: 0

5/11/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

GW about to Rope in another A10 Sport--Now back to your regularly scheduled angst
Replies: 17

5/11/2013 4:50:39 PM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/10/2013
Replies: 0

5/10/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ISIAH TRIPP
Replies: 5

5/10/2013 2:21:41 PM
BM

RECRUIT: JAMAL ROBINSON
Replies: 5

5/10/2013 8:43:41 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/9/2013
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 10:51:28 PM
herve

Ryan McCoy from Manhattan?
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 4:45:47 PM
Steven

Maurice Creek transferring from Indiana
Replies: 26

5/9/2013 4:15:39 PM
GCLY89

RECRUIT: ALSTON THOMPSON
Replies: 0

5/9/2013 10:16:06 AM
BM

RECRUIT: TRE CAMPBELL
Replies: 18

5/9/2013 9:02:37 AM
BM

Davidson to the A-10
Replies: 20

5/9/2013 6:17:07 AM
gonzo

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/8/2013
Replies: 0

5/8/2013 10:52:06 PM
herve

Lonergan In Lithuania
Replies: 52

5/8/2013 5:16:27 PM
Don't Quote Me

Does the name Marcus Joseph ring a bell?
Replies: 6

5/8/2013 12:29:26 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/7/2013
Replies: 0

5/7/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

Another recruit lost
Replies: 3

5/7/2013 6:38:50 PM
Florida Colonial

Where Winners Migrate?
Replies: 0

5/7/2013 2:42:20 PM
Dootie Bubble

Another recruit lost
Replies: 6

5/7/2013 1:44:12 PM
Florida Colonial

Taking all the fun and mystery out of Herve's other passion...
Replies: 7

5/7/2013 1:27:37 PM
FLA

D-league action
Replies: 4

5/7/2013 1:00:27 PM
The MV

Kevin Larsen's military service
Replies: 9

5/7/2013 8:41:37 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/6/2013
Replies: 0

5/6/2013 10:52:14 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MAURICE CREEK
Replies: 13

5/6/2013 5:27:58 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/5/2013
Replies: 0

5/5/2013 10:52:15 PM
herve

I. Am. So. Shocked.
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 7:40:58 PM
herve

Travon Landry
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 6:29:00 PM
Tennessee Colonial

RECRUIT: JJ EPPS
Replies: 4

5/5/2013 7:56:04 AM
BM

Tweet About Larsen
Replies: 1

5/5/2013 7:15:27 AM
CT Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/4/2013
Replies: 0

5/4/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JUSTIN EDWARDS
Replies: 9

5/4/2013 3:39:49 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/3/2013
Replies: 0

5/3/2013 10:52:01 PM
herve

Does Lonergan...???
Replies: 6

5/3/2013 7:58:13 PM
GDUB4

RECRUIT: JULIAN DEBOSE
Replies: 11

5/3/2013 5:49:47 PM
BM

Real Basketball Shit--BM's guard minute projections on a Creek signing and no others
Replies: 15

5/3/2013 2:11:40 PM
Tuna Can

RECRUIT: PAUL JORGENSEN
Replies: 9

5/3/2013 10:22:20 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/2/2013
Replies: 0

5/2/2013 10:51:33 PM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/1/2013
Replies: 0

5/1/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

Eli Carter gets his release from Rutgers
Replies: 9

5/1/2013 8:06:29 PM
DEA

RECRUIT: GABE LEVIN
Replies: 74

5/1/2013 6:43:28 PM
BM

Transfer list
Replies: 16

5/1/2013 3:33:59 PM
BM

GW Med School (OT)
Replies: 3

5/1/2013 1:04:46 PM
NJ Colonial

ML should stop off in Russia and pick up a new assistant
Replies: 0

5/1/2013 12:39:40 PM
george the hippo hunter

RECRUIT: ROBERT CARTWRIGHT
Replies: 2

5/1/2013 8:57:38 AM
mike K

Mark Schlabach
Replies: 1

5/1/2013 3:45:17 AM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/30/2013
Replies: 0

4/30/2013 10:51:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: CHANCELLOR BARNARD
Replies: 2

4/30/2013 9:15:30 AM
BM

RECRUIT: LENNARD FREEMAN
Replies: 40

4/30/2013 7:36:37 AM
Mike K

Ms. Traynor-In her Own Words
Replies: 17

4/30/2013 4:48:51 AM
ziik

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/29/2013
Replies: 0

4/29/2013 10:52:55 PM
herve

RECRUIT: BRADY ELLINGSON
Replies: 2

4/29/2013 8:22:36 PM
Florida Colonial

Roster for next season on 4/26 (this thread is actually about the NY Jets)
Replies: 25

4/29/2013 4:05:24 PM
GDub4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/28/2013
Replies: 0

4/28/2013 10:53:18 PM
herve

Men's Tennis Tied 3-3 in A-10 Finals
Replies: 2

4/28/2013 1:33:31 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/27/2013
Replies: 0

4/27/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

EYBL
Replies: 0

4/27/2013 11:29:07 AM
GW Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/26/2013
Replies: 0

4/26/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 4

4/26/2013 8:16:22 PM
LA Fan

"George Mason president delivers new vision" (WaPo)
Replies: 1

4/26/2013 5:05:15 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARQUIS WRIGHT
Replies: 35

4/26/2013 2:20:19 PM
BM

RECRUIT: MIGUEL CARTAGENA
Replies: 63

4/26/2013 11:23:07 AM
JamonRye

RECRUIT: LAVON LONG
Replies: 13

4/26/2013 10:20:35 AM
BM

Hope you are happy with your purchase Herve!
Replies: 1

4/26/2013 7:07:31 AM
GW Alum Abroad

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/25/2013
Replies: 0

4/25/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 0

4/25/2013 3:07:12 PM
LA Fan

Jabari Hinds WVA
Replies: 2

4/25/2013 11:15:59 AM
DEA

Why did we honor David pellom as a graduating senior
Replies: 8

4/25/2013 9:35:01 AM
Neil

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/24/2013
Replies: 0

4/24/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

RECRUIT: RASHARD KELLY
Replies: 8

4/24/2013 8:37:48 PM
Florida Colonial

Give mike the benefit. He is making close to president knapp. He will not f@@k it up like kh did.
Replies: 5

4/24/2013 8:14:18 PM
Neil

10-21
Replies: 7

4/24/2013 1:13:07 PM
What?

30 second shot clock?
Replies: 9

4/24/2013 9:26:56 AM
GW Fan

RECRUIT: ERIC CARTER
Replies: 0

4/24/2013 8:56:58 AM
BM

another 1 that got away-Mark Williams
Replies: 3

4/24/2013 5:09:44 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/23/2013
Replies: 0

4/23/2013 10:51:24 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 0

4/23/2013 9:15:06 PM
Florida Colonial

Cap Classic Rosters
Replies: 4

4/23/2013 8:42:09 PM
BM

Dooley to Florida Gulf Coast
Replies: 37

4/23/2013 10:30:55 AM
Poog

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/22/2013
Replies: 0

4/22/2013 10:52:28 PM
herve

The Non Nigel Johnson thread
Replies: 12

4/22/2013 10:03:47 PM
Florida Colonial

Phil Hochberg
Replies: 9

4/22/2013 5:30:23 PM
BM

Gun Control(OT)
Replies: 59

4/22/2013 9:10:47 AM
Steven

GW Baseball vs Fordham
Replies: 3

4/21/2013 11:12:02 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/21/2013
Replies: 0

4/21/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

RECRUIT: EVAN TAYLOR
Replies: 1

4/21/2013 10:53:01 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/20/2013
Replies: 0

4/20/2013 10:53:46 PM
herve

Official NLI announcement
Replies: 22

4/20/2013 7:53:38 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ANDRE WALKER
Replies: 4

4/20/2013 8:23:06 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/19/2013
Replies: 0

4/19/2013 10:54:11 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JOSH HEARLIHY
Replies: 21

4/19/2013 6:27:49 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ASHLEY WILLIAMS
Replies: 6

4/19/2013 5:40:55 PM
BM

Davidson on the verge of joining A-10
Replies: 20

4/19/2013 11:46:08 AM
GCLY89

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/18/2013
Replies: 0

4/18/2013 10:55:01 PM
herve

How many scholarships are left to give out?
Replies: 15

4/18/2013 12:57:59 PM
NewGWFan

For You TT "Haters"
Replies: 8

4/18/2013 12:48:47 PM
ziik

RECRUIT: Jerome Seagars
Replies: 39

4/18/2013 12:33:21 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/17/2013
Replies: 0

4/17/2013 11:40:22 PM
herve

Sutton Submits Name for Vacant FL Gulf Coast Head Job
Replies: 29

4/17/2013 8:00:08 PM
herve

Quevyn Winters and 4 others leaving Duquesne
Replies: 4

4/17/2013 3:52:49 PM
Free Quebec

If it Quacks Like a Duck ... (OT)
Replies: 2

4/17/2013 12:43:38 PM
Eugene

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/16/2013
Replies: 0

4/16/2013 10:51:37 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARK WILLIAMS
Replies: 16

4/16/2013 9:49:32 AM
CPots

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/15/2013
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 10:58:45 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ANTHONY PATE
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 9:48:29 AM
BM

Recruit coming this weekend
Replies: 57

4/15/2013 2:48:11 AM
DEA

GW Washington Post Story
Replies: 19

4/15/2013 2:42:54 AM
LA Fan

More of This!
Replies: 1

4/15/2013 1:01:30 AM
BM

welcome Davidson!
Replies: 0

4/15/2013 12:57:39 AM
NJ Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/14/2013
Replies: 0

4/14/2013 10:57:07 PM
herve

Rutgers
Replies: 8

4/14/2013 2:18:37 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/13/2013
Replies: 0

4/13/2013 10:53:00 PM
herve

A possible guard target/transfer
Replies: 3

4/13/2013 8:04:03 PM
Florida Colonial

Hopefully We Will Get Some Recruiting News From This.
Replies: 0

4/13/2013 11:32:48 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/12/2013
Replies: 0

4/12/2013 10:53:43 PM
herve

Stadium Journey review of the Smith Center
Replies: 10

4/12/2013 1:19:17 PM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/11/2013
Replies: 0

4/11/2013 10:53:47 PM
herve

Questions That Must Be Asked ...
Replies: 55

4/11/2013 10:22:20 AM
CBO

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/10/2013
Replies: 0

4/10/2013 10:55:52 PM
herve

Cross Jon Severe off the list
Replies: 2

4/10/2013 12:39:20 PM
GW21

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/9/2013
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 10:51:26 PM
herve

OT--Who Wins? Who Cares?
Replies: 7

4/9/2013 8:27:23 PM
ziik

coaching changes 2013
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 4:04:18 PM
GWSB '11

VCU pre-season #14
Replies: 2

4/9/2013 1:54:59 PM
herve

Play nice
Replies: 0

4/9/2013 11:54:08 AM
Old Prof

Who am I?
Replies: 8

4/9/2013 9:31:33 AM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/8/2013
Replies: 0

4/8/2013 10:55:27 PM
herve

Did you all know this?
Replies: 13

4/8/2013 6:37:07 PM
BACCAS92

Hobbs & Mid-Major Coaches
Replies: 7

4/8/2013 10:45:31 AM
Wax Daddy

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/7/2013
Replies: 0

4/7/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 5

4/7/2013 11:52:56 AM
Florida Colonial

Nick Griffin Third Team All-Met
Replies: 13

4/7/2013 10:00:05 AM
Yinka dont Stinka

Honestly! I can't leave the country for one second without you guys messing everything up! nt
Replies: 3

4/7/2013 8:13:40 AM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/6/2013
Replies: 0

4/6/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 0

4/6/2013 7:32:02 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/5/2013
Replies: 0

4/5/2013 10:53:17 PM
herve

Here's a good upper: Garino interview
Replies: 5

4/5/2013 4:14:31 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/4/2013
Replies: 0

4/4/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Lonergan got what he wanted
Replies: 69

4/4/2013 10:34:12 PM
Knew this was coming

Lehman with the Save
Replies: 0

4/4/2013 10:07:15 PM
Poog

RECRUIT: THERENCE MAYIMBA
Replies: 5

4/4/2013 9:26:39 PM
CPots

Backup Point Guard
Replies: 29

4/4/2013 7:27:29 PM
bobo

Hoping the worst is behind us
Replies: 7

4/4/2013 2:56:07 PM
NewGWFan

Jamail JOnes
Replies: 4

4/4/2013 12:26:29 AM
DEA

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/3/2013
Replies: 0

4/3/2013 10:52:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JORDAN ABDURRAOOF
Replies: 9

4/3/2013 8:13:58 PM
Mike K

Random but infuriating
Replies: 9

4/3/2013 5:20:33 PM
Steven

Sounds weird but
Replies: 23

4/3/2013 4:43:11 PM
DEA

American University
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 3:20:41 PM
NewGWFan

Rutgers' fires their basketball coach
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 12:06:57 PM
neil

Some Good News Today [Baseball] PART II
Replies: 2

4/3/2013 9:55:35 AM
CJS Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/2/2013
Replies: 0

4/2/2013 10:51:07 PM
herve

Lonergan friend headed to Siena
Replies: 5

4/2/2013 7:58:15 PM
Poog

Status heading into Spring Signing
Replies: 13

4/2/2013 11:10:08 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/1/2013
Replies: 0

4/1/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

scam or legit? (OT)
Replies: 2

4/1/2013 6:57:25 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Urban problems
Replies: 9

4/1/2013 6:07:11 PM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 3/31/2013
Replies: 0

3/31/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 1:46:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

I know that this is a basketball website, but every sports fan out there has to have an opinion regarding the Pedro and Don Zimmer incindent on Saturday night. The national television media is clearly painting a picture that it was all Pedro's fault and that he should have got out of the way of Zimmer when he charged him in the 4th. Can you imagine what they would be saying about Pedro if he had turned and ran away from Zimmer? He would have been laughed at and ridculed for the rest of his career. It would have been on Baseball's Greatest Bloopers for the net century. Pedro would always be known as the man who ran away from 72 year old Don Zimmer. Zimmer rushed him and I think that Pedro did the right thing. He didn't throw him down hard, he slowly led him to the ground and then watched him flop around and roll on the ground for awhile. If Pedro ha thrown a punch, then it would have been a much different story, but he used restraint in not doing so. Meanwhile, the newspapers and sports reporters are painting it as an unbeliveably hilarious incident in which no one was hurt and all's well that ends well situation. So I say, lets lay off Pedro. He should appologize, it would be the classy thing to do. I liked what Zimmer did, but I thought he could have controlled himself a little more and not bawled on national tv over an appology for his actions. This is by far the best series for baseball in years, and ratings are going through the roof. I can only imagine what tonight's game will bring us. And by the way, I still stick with my original assesment that Boston will win this one in 7.....

RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:23:00 PM
Poster: Shooter

I agree, WT, about Pedro. He did throw him down fairly easily and any fall a 72 year old takes is probably not a trivial thing. I do, however, think that Zim's job is to keep a cool head and motivate his players without getting into a fracass. Pedro did what he should have done. It was ugly to see but Zimmer had it coming.

Great series so far, but I think with Pedro available for only one more game, I think the BoSo are done. The Yankees are too strong with starting pitching. Wakefield will get shelled if he sees his net start. Look for the Cubs/Yankees and the Cubbies to win it all in 6.
RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:24:00 PM
Poster: Free Quebec

Given that you chose to limit your post to just the Zimmer thing, I take it you are a Red So fan or Yankee hater?

I don't disagree with anything you said, ecept your spin on media coverage. Unlike your post, the media has blistered Pedro because not for throwing Zimmer, but for the overall sequence of events that he unquestionably instigated. So here's my response:

Yes. Zimmer was wrong to charge at Pedro. However, as you noted, he apologized. Pedro hasn't. Insofar as the media has taken Zim's side, that's a good part of it. Pedro probably could have just grabbed hold of Zimmer, but I don't have an issue with what he did.

That said, Pedro has a history of throwing at guys when he doesn't have his best stuff. Early in his career (in Montreal) he had a reputation as the worst headhunter in the game. Saturday, he reverted to form. Basically, the guy didn't have it so he decided to drill Garcia up high as a way to re-assert himself. Later, after a tough take-out at second with Garcia and Walker, Pedro openly threatens to bean him in the head. That's a cardinal sin in baseball -- especially in the AL where pitchers don't have to bat.

Pedro was out of control and deserves the criticism that he is getting -- not for the Zimmer thing, but for head-hunting and intentionally hitting guys. I have friends who are die-hard Red So fans who have said the same thing.

I'll also add a mention of Manny Ramirez heading to the mound after a slightly inside pitch. Everyone knows Ramirez was wrong since the pitch was barely inside. When you combine a pitcher that is intenionally hitting guys because he can't get them out, a pitcher who threatens to hit his opponents in the head,and a batter who overreacts to a slightly inside pitch by starting a fight there's no doubt you have a picture of a team out-of-control. So if in your view the media isn't giving Pedro the benefit of the doubt when Zimmer charged him, maybe that's why.

Only the Red So could be so incompetent as to become the bad guys in a series against the Yankees.
RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:38:00 PM
Poster: Free Quebec

For what it's worth, on PTI just now, both Wilbon and Kornheiser agreed with me. They didn't criticize Pedro for throwing Zimmer. Instead, the vociferously criticized Zimmer for charging him and spent time talking about how wrong it was for Pedro to throw at Garcia. That's just another eample that disproves this theory you've cited that the media (as if it's a monolithic entity) think Pedro was wrong.

RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:40:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

FQ, I agree with a few things you said. Manny should not have charged the mound, but if we're gonna talk about head hunters, then don't forget that Clemens is notoriously known as one of the best of all-time. Regardless of what happened, the media is spinning the Zimmer thing on Pedro without sporting any of the arguments that you just made. Even if Pedro beaned one at Garcia's head, Zimmer still should not be the one rushing Pedro. That is what I was trying to get at. Oh, and I din;t bring up the bullpen incident because we will all see what happens after the Boston Police Department comes to their decision. I would love to see them come to the game tonight around 7:50 and arrest the 2 Yankees pitchers right before the game. That would be a hell of a story.

RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:45:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

Not true, almost all newspaper coverage has agreed with the fact that Zimmer was wrong, while most television markets have sided with Pedro, SOLEY on the case of whether he should have tossed Zim to the ground. I do not count Wilbon and Kornheiser has televsion guys, since they are also columnists for The Washington Post.

RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 2:45:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

Not true, almost all newspaper coverage has agreed with the fact that Zimmer was wrong, while most television markets have sided with Pedro, SOLEY on the case of whether he should have tossed Zim to the ground. I do not count Wilbon and Kornheiser has televsion guys, since they are also columnists for The Washington Post.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 3:11:00 PM
Poster: Free Quebec

Newspapers say Zim was wrong, TV sides with Pedro. That sounds like heads you lose, tails I win. (unless by sides with Pedro, you meant blames Pedro)

Also, when you made your charge that the media has taken an anti-Pedro stance, you were using TV as a synonym for "the media" and newspapers as a synonym for "not the media". One more question: please eplain how you know that "most television markets" are blaming Pedro. How many markets have you watched? Does this tie into the thread below about the hregional sports package?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 3:28:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

By markets, I should have said media outlets.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 3:28:00 PM
Poster: Wishful Thinking

By markets, I should have said media outlets.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 3:59:00 PM
Poster: Free Quebec

And which outlets would it be that you've seen that allow you to come to the conclusion that most television outlets think Zimmer shouldn't have gotten dropped.

RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/13/2003 8:30:00 PM
Poster: ELJ

Shooter: Care to rethink your "Wakefield will get shelled statement", now that he's just finished his second straight masterful performance in shutting down the Evil Empire? Actually, this long-transplanted Bay Stater would still be surprised if the Red So won. But never understate the "power" of a good knuckler. Somewhere, Hoyt Wilhelm is smiling tonight.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/14/2003 2:21:00 AM
Poster: Shooter

I was watching it last night and thought to myself, "Self, Wakefield's throwing a gem." He had that thing dancing like a drunk stripper. I still the the Yankees will pull it out, though, but knowing my proclivity to pick the wrong team, ya never know.

RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/14/2003 8:10:00 AM
Poster: phillygwfan

Why can't everybody be wrong? Pedro didn't have his stuff, was frustrated, and acted like a baby. Pure and simple. Zimmer lost his head and acted like a baby as well. Give him credit for realizing this and apologizing though. Biggest baby...Ramirez! Come on - the pitch was high, but right down the center of the plate. It's bad enough that pitchers get glared at for simply pitching inside (a necessity), but now they can't even pitch high? Come on. If Clemens wanted to hit him, he would have. By the way - I hate the Yankees and am rooting hard for the So, so don't accuse me of bias in this post. Bottom line is that Pedro and Manny both acted like losers in Game 3. Here's perspective - the sanest guy on the field during the whole thing was Roger Clemons! This is a guy who looks like one day he'll walk into a McDonalds and blow everyone inside away.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/14/2003 8:20:00 AM
Poster: Boston Colonial

I found Saturday to be an embarrasment for Boston. Jim Brown always used to say "when you score a touchdown act like you've been in the end zone before." Saturday the Red So acted like they've never been to the playoffs. Pedro threw the first three innings like his arm was dead. People said he lost his composure and Clemens didn't but after he hit Garcia he didn't allow another base runner and his velocity went up. Suddenly he was throwing in the 90's again. I don't condone the head hunting but unfortunately it worked. As for zimmer he had no business being on the field, but the sight of Pedro tossing him down made me sick. My seven year old son (a big Jeter-Yankee fan) thought it was cool. I told him if he ever pulled crap like that he'd never play baseball again. Yes Pedro will throw inside. Yes he hit Jeter and Soriano this summer. Everyone forgets that both were foul balls off their hands and neither was awarded a base. Both those guys hang over the plate and have to epect good pitchers to challenge them for the inside. And those two were hit after Clemens threw at Kevin Millar. But pointing at his head and gesturing at Posada was plain dumb and inflammatory, like Clemens throwing the bat at Piazza, or Marichal and Roseboro or Campinaris throwing his bat at some Tiger pitcher. Ramirez is in his own world and if he couldn't hit a baseball he'd be digging ditches somewhere. He is immature and overreacted to an inside pitch. I grew out of my hate the Yankees phase after graduating from GW. I love the So but I respect Torre, Jeter, Posada, Rivera and Pettite. I'm glad last night's game was a return to good baseball. No other sport can create such a high level of tension for such a long period. It is addictive even if your team finds new ways to lose.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pedro vs. Zimmer....
10/14/2003 8:52:00 AM
Poster: squid

I too heard most people say Zim was wrong. However, I don't think Pedro hit Garcia, it looked more like the ball hit his bat, the way it ricocheted up and didn't move his jersey at all. That being said, it still wasn't a pitch Perdo should have made. I think they all should have been thrown out, at least Pedro and Zimmer, since that might have calmed down what happened later, when there was the fight in the bullpen. I did think Zimmer's apology was good, though. Both of those fights should not have been tolerated, and on ESPN they played the crew chief saying he didn't toss anybody because it was the Playoffs. What kind of eplanation is that? So it's ok to fight and throw at people's heads in the playoffs, but not the regular season? They got fined, but still. A pretty messed up situation all around, I think.

RE: Yankees vs. Little Joe
10/14/2003 9:51:00 AM
Poster: vingait

I think Garcia and Nelson should have to spend the night with Little Joe in the Boston Zoo as a part of their community service for gang-banging the Boston Ballpen employee.

Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 9:55:00 AM
Poster: Shooter

Speaking of thuggishness, check out this video of a Nebraska football player knocking out a Missou fan after their loss this past week....

RE: RE: Yankees vs. Little Joe
10/14/2003 10:38:00 AM
Poster: Boston Colonial

Vingait Little Joe could have best been employed by the Patriots. Imagine a player with his strength in a football game!

RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 11:02:00 AM
Poster: squid

That sucker punch is ridiculous. What is it with college football and sucker punches this season? There was that Ohio State guy who choked the QB while he was on the ground, and the Air Force-Northwestern game (right?) where the assistant coach hit the Air Force player and the AF guy hit him back. Sounds like Myles B needs to put the smack down on these guys. Plus it seems like punching opposing players is a new coaching method. First the N'western guy, now Zimmer. Who's net, Jack Mckeon?

RE: RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 12:39:00 PM
Poster: herve

What the OSU guy did was insanely unacceptable and he should at least be suspended for the rest of the season (he's a senior). At least the Ohio State guy was suspended and made to apologize to all parties concerned. The classy program at Nebraska is offering no apologies or suspensions in what was essentially an assault on someone who had no direct connection with the game.

RE: RE: RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 12:42:00 PM
Poster: ziik

when I played rugby, that was pretty common practice on the part of one of the teams in our league. some guys are just bonkers like that. I heard he got a 1 games suspension from his coach, but may get more from the commissioner of the conference.

RE: RE: RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 3:43:00 PM
Poster: Fly on the Wall

Herve, with all due respect neither OSU or Nebraska should be talking about class. Both are representative of what is wrong with college athletics. OSU and Nebraska, along with a host of other schools cheat their way to prominence. If someone would just "follow the money" in major D-I football, we'd have to get I-AA's to fill the bowl slots. No one and I repeat no one is holier than thou in this regard.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 5:49:00 PM
Poster: herve

I do not disagree Fly. There's not a university with a football team in the top 30 that doesn't perform "magic acts" every day. I'd venture to say the same about the college basketball top 30 as well, but it doesn't seem to stink quite as much as the football schools.

RE: RE: Sucker Punch
10/14/2003 7:13:00 PM
Poster: ELJ

Squid: My least-favorite coach ever, Woody Hayes, set the pattern a couple decades ago when he slugged a Clemson player in a bowl game ... and was fired essentially because of the incident.

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