|Position: point guard|
dmvpiranha4/23/2017 4:54:24 PM
Where would we be without wishful thinking?
dmvpiranha4/23/2017 4:55:14 PM
bm4/23/2017 5:42:19 PM
Highlights here from last year including a blowby of Darnell. #33's whole game is to feed off Brown's assists. I like a lot actually.
old fan4/25/2017 12:55:46 AM
Point Guard target.....
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elj6/12/2017 4:04:17 PM
Interview answer says he doesn't like driving in Virginia. He's not alone in that; wonder if it works against his possibly coming here.
bm6/15/2017 4:46:54 PM
the mv6/15/2017 5:39:44 PM
We are well on our way towards kicking ass in a 6'5" and under league.
bm8/3/2017 9:29:10 AM
Coming back again for an official. Let's wrap this up!
bm8/3/2017 9:34:12 AM
gw698/3/2017 6:40:17 PM
Lets get this kid---will make you forget Darnell--yes--I said it.
dmvpiranha8/3/2017 6:57:10 PM
the dude8/3/2017 7:02:51 PM
You could see him signing with GW on this visit.
Brown is a 5-foot-10, 145-pound guard from Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts. Aside from Oklahoma State, Brown has offers from nine other schools including Rutgers, Boston College, Massachusetts, GW and DePaul.
the mv8/3/2017 7:27:07 PM
You forgot to include Quinnipiac on your list of schools being considered Dude. Guess that one doesn't fit your narrative.
Just making sure I have this straight. We scoff at Quinnipiac when Marfo transfers there, furthering your insistence that the majority of our recruits have been well below expectation. And yet, we seem to very much want the player whose final two are GW and Quinnipiac.
No contradiction here.
ziik the soothsayer8/3/2017 8:26:42 PM
The young man is a budding poster, no doubt.
Not a soap seller, lawyer, doctor or indian chief, from what I can see
ziik the bureaucrat8/3/2017 8:28:56 PM
It is spelt pollster!
Your crystal balll needs spell chek!!!
the dude8/3/2017 8:35:23 PM
Per Rivals, Iowa St and UVA interest as well. 3 stars. Rivals lists at 5'10 160.
hondo8/3/2017 8:36:40 PM
Soap seller ziik?
gw698/3/2017 8:55:06 PM
MV--Just because Brown is considering Quinnipiac doesn't mean it's
a peer of ours B-ball wise.Who knows why he's interested(knows someone at
the school-likes the Coach--closer to home;whatever.)I have no problem
adding it to the list--but don't pretend it's not a step down from GW.
the dude8/3/2017 9:18:49 PM
Impressive list of offers Scout has him, 3 stars, and as the #39 PG in the nation.
ROXBURY, MA (NEW HAMPTON SCHOOL)
bigfan8/3/2017 9:39:03 PM
Written offers or interest?
If we want him, will explain why it is great for him.
But unless he has a huge interest in political polling, as Ziik notes. his final two is interesting and ironic in light of recent conversation.
gw698/3/2017 10:03:36 PM
What do you mean --'if we want him'.Obviously we do.Hes been offered
and he's coming for an official visit.Am I missing something?
thinker8/3/2017 10:12:44 PM
I don't think you're missing anything GW69.
sciuto8/3/2017 10:40:15 PM
the dude8/3/2017 11:30:36 PM
Offer. Actual offers. I posted the full list of both interest and offers, there's half a dozen BCS offers, some from high major programs. Doc69, as Thinker said, I don't think you are missing anything.
bobo8/4/2017 12:03:02 AM
Per Verbal Commits, the only 2 schools that have current interest in Brown are Quinipiac and GW. All other show interest level at NONE.
So CONGRATS to Quinipiac for a very impressive offering! That's a win for them to even offer.
GW should be the club house leader as of right now. Seems to be a replication of the transfer Potter but GW needs bodies for next year as well.
gwb8/4/2017 12:15:18 AM
Right BoBo that's because he announced today that he cut his list to two schools so they removed the other schools interest because he publicly stated he's not interested in them....
the dude8/4/2017 12:28:34 AM
Per Rivals, 3 stars, and some of the BCS offers he's received:
bobo8/4/2017 12:32:54 AM
But Oklahoma State had Brown listed with 28 other players on thier list per the Scouts list that dude referenced.
Top targets (1), High choice(1), Interested (17) and then Brown with 10 others under the catagory of "Scout Look"
Likely they never offered Brown. They took a look and offered to seveal others.
Brown didn't exclude OSU, OSU excluded Brown.
BC had him as a Scout's Look as well.
DuPaul had him with 33 other total players. Brown listed under "Scouts Look".
Rutgers had him with 37 others. Brown listed under "Scouts Look"
UMass had him under "Interested"
GW had Brown under "Hard Target"
the dude8/4/2017 12:49:59 AM
Think of Darnell, add 6 inches, and a better jumper. Has started at point for years for the #5 Ranked prep team in the nation. "Holds Offers from ACC, BIG10, BIG EAST, A10, & IVY League."
Hope he commits on the visit!
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gwb8/4/2017 2:22:19 AM
@BoBo Words such as "Likely" prove your claims are baseless.
Yes schools offer to tons of other kids. That's how it works take a look around but if they offer a scholarship and he accepts they are going to have that honor it. None of these schools are forced to do anything.
Julius Kim saying OSU offered. The same guy who reported GW offered. And hey, he was clearly right about that. My thinking is that he is probably just a little more credible than you are. Just a thought though.
bobo8/4/2017 6:30:29 AM
GWB: Lots of the proclaimed "offers" on websites and blogposts aren't acctually offers. It's just somebody saying so on the internet.
So this player is shunning offers from OSU, Rutgers, DePual, Boston College and others to limit himself to Quinnipiac and GW?
Ya, I'm sure that's the case.
gw698/4/2017 7:03:36 AM
The young man had some good offers.I hope he chooses us.Athletic,
true point.Check out highlights and would love some reviews.
dmvpiranha8/4/2017 8:21:34 AM
I know it's just highlights but he definitely shows great court vision in them. The only problem is that next year Jair and Armel will still only be juniors and Justin Mazzulla will be a sophomore. He might not get as much playing time as he might at Quinnipiac who don't appear to have that much depth at the point. That being said, I really do hope he comes here! He seems to be a natural at getting to the basket, which is something I don't think we have right now at PG.
Why are we under the impression that some offers are lies? He himself tweeted out a picture with all the schools that offered him before he narrowed them down. Doubt you can lie about that. Also, he was under "scout look" a few weeks ago before he took an unofficial to both GW and Quinnipiac.
Quinnipiac has been downright awful the past several years but I expect them to be competitive a few years from now. They changed coaches and now have former Villanova assistant Baker Dunleavy at the helm. He has already brought in transfers from Tulsa and Penn State in addition to Kevin so he has shown he can recruit to a degree. Oklahoma State, Rutgers, DePaul, and Boston College are all going to finish at the bottom or close to the bottom of the Big 12, Big Ten, Big East, and ACC respectively so I can see why he might not want to go there. OKST might be the only one that hasn't been a perennial last place team of them having recently made the tournament but they lost a lot of players as well as their coach Brad Underwood (to Illinois) from that team. That's not to even include other factors why he chose us and QU. Maybe he liked the campuses and coaching staff. QU is close to home. He's a smart kid who had some Ivy offers as well.
bobo8/4/2017 8:40:32 AM
Quinnipiac and GW are the only 2 schools listed as ones with visits for Brown. So he turns down offers BC, Rutgers, Oklahoma State, DePaul, UMass and others with out even visiting them to focus on Quinnipiac and GW? Anything is possible but just not buying that.
Agree he most resembles Armel. It would be good to know his 3pt %, scoring and assist averages to get a better guage of his production and shooting abilities, but he can get to the basket.
thinker8/4/2017 8:54:02 AM
I think the thing to focus on is that MoJo wants him and is willing to commit to him NOW. None of the listings on the scouting sites can truly and accurately tell us what other teams ACTUALLY think about him or what type of offer or interest they have in him.
MoJo has LOTS of other players still available to recruit for NEXT fall. If he's prepared to take him this early - then he is likely very high on him. That's the most important thing for us.
the mv8/4/2017 10:20:30 AM
Bobo, give up. Please. Just surrender. It ought to be painfully obvious by now that some posters here, for all we know, it might actually be just one person, simply don't know how this recruiting/offer business works. Here's a possibility from a power conference school:
"Shandon, we are interested in you but we are also looking at 4 other point guards. We may take two for this recruiting class but it may also be one. I can't formally offer right now until I hear back from at least 3 of the others. So, keep your options open and hopefully, we can get back to you before you've committed elsewhere. And, if you'd like to say that we've offered you a scholarship with contingencies, we'll have no problem with your saying you've been offered by us."
That's often the reality. But ithis will mostly fall on deaf ears.
bm8/4/2017 10:28:32 AM
He didn't have a great EYBL with 28% 3pt shooting and 1.4 A/TO ratio. Maybe that cooled people off a 5'10" PG.
ziiks third cousin twice removed8/4/2017 10:28:49 AM
Yes, some matters on GWHoops, and posters, too, have been painfully obvious for well over a decade.
Reality? That's another board.
a poster has no name8/4/2017 10:39:58 AM
It seems like GWU beats out BCS schools for recruits pretty often though. Just from a cursory check of Verbal Commits, Mazzulla, Bolden, Marfo, Toro, Smith, Swan, and Cimino all had BCS offers and came to GW. Is it really that farfetched that Brown (rated as the #39 PG and a high 3 star by 247) would come to GW? Besides, its not like OSU, DePaul, and Rutgers are particularly good programs.
bobo8/4/2017 10:51:17 AM
See MV's post, No Name. In the news articles from RI came out about Mazzulla, it said that there was INTEREST from BC but no offer. The offer came from GW and Mazzulla jumped on it.
a poster has no name8/4/2017 11:03:42 AM
And the others? Smoke as well?
bobo8/4/2017 11:15:25 AM
Some yes, some no. ESPN and other sites also have recruiting info with offers. Cimino did have offers from BC and KSU. I beleive Swan had at least 1 BCS offer (I think Miami or Cincinnati). Not sure about Bolden and Smith.
a poster has no name8/4/2017 11:43:38 AM
I guess my point is that highly rated recruits with BCS offers choose non-BCS schools every year, and have chosen GW many times over the past 4 years, so, seeing as we don't have any proof that Brown didn't really get offers from OSU, DePaul , and Rutgers, why do we need to immediately view those "offers" with skepticism?
danjsport8/4/2017 11:44:11 AM
As with Lonergan---and Hobbs (the only two coaches I've been around for), I'm going to trust Mojo to recruit guys that he wants and thinks will be good for this team. This upcoming season is his first with any players he actively chose to bring on. The next season will be the first where he could recruit without an "interim" attached to his title. He gets 2-3 years to show development of the team and those guys. If he wants this guy, I don't care who else recruited him. I don't care whether they were "offers" or "interest" or just phoney baloney.
rich maier8/4/2017 11:46:23 AM
Hope we don't have to listen to MV, Bigfan and Bobo's crap much longer. They obviously love the previous coach, what's his name, than they do GW.
ziik the soothsayer8/4/2017 11:59:54 AM
I see Rich as a manure man. Stirring it a bit. Good thing, it says, in my crystal ball.
bo knows8/4/2017 12:02:47 PM
Bobo has it generally right - there is a lot of bullshit on social media. Shandon Brown may be a great player for us. But independent of Shandon Brown's own situation, there are "offers you can accept" and "offers you can't unless conditions a, b, c, and d happen". Not all offers are real. Also kids' handlers lie to pump interest and since the school cannot comment under NCAA rules the lie stands. Go check Verbal Commits. James Madison has 66 open offers if you are to believe VC. Guarantee 2/3 of them are not real in the sense you couldn't call up and accept one today. So anyone who judges recruits by who else has offered is often playing a foolish game unless they know which offers are real and which are backups or bullshit. Carry on.
the mv8/4/2017 12:10:35 PM
That's precisely what I'm saying Bo. Well put.
ziik the peasant8/4/2017 12:20:59 PM
alum18/4/2017 12:41:11 PM
Let's let Mazzulla speak for himsldsel on what schools he was considering....
From the Providence Journal:
"Mazzulla, who’ll be looking to lead Hendricken to a second straight state championship this winter, says he’s hearing mostly from Brown, Jacksonville State and Ohio University. “I had a good summer [playing with Terrell Brown on BABC’s team] and am open to hearing from more schools,” Mazzulla said."
monument8/4/2017 1:02:47 PM
Sad to see the Bowie lovers left with nothing to do besides dishonest bashing of good receuits on the recruits own thread. ML signed guys with zero offers and they rejoiced. This guy clearly had many good suitors. Sad.
ziik the peasant8/4/2017 1:13:28 PM
They go into a frenzy and eat their own.
ziik the bureaucrat8/4/2017 2:12:30 PM
The guys who want to sell you the sizzle, instead of the steak.
the dude8/4/2017 2:55:57 PM
The A10 has long been a good home for rock solid, undersized floor generals. The league has a slew of them, over the years, several recently. Shandon has wisely turned down some high major offers in putting GW in his final 2 to become the next one. I predict he commits to GW on his upcoming visit.
ziik the soothsayer8/4/2017 3:03:53 PM
If you post, Dude, you can expect to be hammered from two of three directions. Consider wearing a helmet, please.
bo knows8/4/2017 3:51:49 PM
The Dude has a 50% chance of being right on Shandon lol. I'll give him this, that's a lot higher than most of his statements here.
the mv8/4/2017 3:52:05 PM
The problem, at least on this issue, is that it's not just The Dude (which naturally leaves me to ask, "or is it?"). If I'm part of the Bowie lovers, I'll have to come up with a phrase to succintly define a number of you. Right now, all that comes to mind is 'The Delusional Ones" but I'm confident that I or someone can come up with something even better.
To recap, this thread has NOTHING to do with Mike Lonergan. It does not involve any bashing of the recruit whatsoever, Monument. The only bashing is coming in the form of posters bashing other posters of which there has been entirely too much of that going on The conflict sadly and predictably starts with The Dude listing the Power Conference school offers that Shandon has received without mentioning Quinnipiac since this doesn't fit his narrative. Kind of an important omission considering that the player has boiled things down to us or them. From there, several here (Bobo, Bo, myself) have tried to explain what the word "offer" really can mean in college basketball circles. But those of you who just want to oppose the Bowie lovers don't want to hear it from us, no matter how correct we are on this point. In all fairness, Shandon could have received legitimate "verbal now, sign in November, and you're on our roster" offers from each of these schools; we would have no way of truly knowing this. Therefore, I'm not saying that he definitively hasn't. However, given how recruiting works, given how kids receive positive vibes from coaches which sound like they can turn into genuine offers but often do not all of the time, given that Shandon's top two choices, reportedly, include none of the power conference schools, one should be able to conclude that at least some if not each of the power conference school offers were not "we can take you immediately offers." In no way is this bashing the player. In fact, Shandon should be commended for attracting as much attention as he has.
ziik the soothsayer8/4/2017 3:58:42 PM
Here come the tag-teaming gerbils!!! In for the kill!!!
One goes after the tail, the other chomps down on the neck.
Great, inspirational team work.
bigfan8/4/2017 4:03:08 PM
Asking a realistic question is not a sign of disloyalty, Rich.
Nor is wondering about the bizarre turn of events that has prompted everal other posters not named by you to write about a dozen separate point analysis of the curious decisions.
Sorry if you want everyone to be a true kool-aid swallower because of your feelings about the previous coaching staff, but you might want to realize it is also 75 percent (more if you count the Holm promotion) of the current coaching staff. And they all were standing by their boss in recent years with no resignations or defections among the current coaches.
Difference is not acting like a braying jackass and attacking other people's motives. Is someone with a different point of view on American government, disloyal? Is anyone in a different political party loyal to only the previous administration? Your point of view, or axe to grind, really does not make you a a better or worse fan or person than anyone. We're all true fans if we have been here regularly for years.
It's ok to ask a question, especially not phrased in a loaded manner. Does seem like an odd choice that anyone with any sense would notice, but it's certainly plausible. Some hypocrisy here, given Marfo's decision. Should we dig up posts from this spring? If offers are true, great.
Anyway, as DanJsport notes, it's Mojo's decision.
If we want him (and if you or some others can't comprehend why it's phrased that way, tough luck since you'll be seeing it again), will do one's best to try and sell GW's advantages. As opposed to reflexively attacking other posters just to stir up trouble.
monument8/4/2017 4:16:45 PM
Makes him more honest Big fan. In that he is not a miserable read on every topic based on some dumb old grievance. Better fan? Perhaps but who cares. He is not a tiresome merchant of dishonest partisanship taking the form of slamming a guy about to visit GW on his own thread.
bo knows8/4/2017 4:22:34 PM
Ziik, no tag team necessary on the Dude. He is an easy tap out. About 95% of it self-inflicted.
thinker8/4/2017 4:38:12 PM
I'm very confident that Bo's post about the unreliabilty of website reports on who has made or hasn't made an offer is right. Bo and I don't agree on a number of things (obviously) but I think he has a strong understanding of the recruiting process, recruit ranking, and talent evaluation.
MoJo knows a bunch of things we don't know like how good are the players that he already has; what system is he trying to implement; what role he wants to use the player in; what type of character and work ethic a particular recruit has (based on talking directly to the player and to people that know him); and certainly lots of other things.
So mostly the most important things for us on the outside to know is that MoJo wants him and would seem to want him a lot to give him a scholarship in August of 2017 when he has plenty of time to go after MANY other players. You just don't tend to give a scholarship to your third choice this early (as Bo mentions above).
the dude8/4/2017 4:44:55 PM
BCS offers? Check. Top 40 nationally at his own position? Check. Impressive on film? Check. Nationally ranked, top 5 Prep team Point Guard? Check.
bo knows8/4/2017 5:17:41 PM
Hardly obsessed with the guy Ziik. Find his posts and personnas mostly amusing personally but worry that others with less information will take the bait. If I was obsessed I would post everyday about him. Don't think that is nearly the case at all.
Now your need to defend the Dude at almost every turn ... not sure why that is given that you post often about how all this is are anonymous electrons. I guess some electrons need defending.
bo knows8/4/2017 5:20:46 PM
Thinker, I would say our disagreements are mostly limited to one particular fairly recent large topic which does not need repeating here. Otherwise, I generally have no problem with most of what you write. And I do appreciate your confidence in my basketball opinions.
the mv8/4/2017 5:28:12 PM
Unless of course Bo, there's that algorithm connecting The Dude and Ziik, right gents?
Coming from you Ziik, I'll take uninteresting every day of the week. Nobody will rightfully use that word on you, as the author of a thread today featuring 8 responses, all from you and your little family members. It's been hard not to notice that there have been many of these absurd posts lately. Are you trying to be funny or even mildly entertaining? Or are you trying for something else? Seriously because I really can't tell. Most people here I'm sure skip these posts entirely. It's not like anyone has complimented you on these fabulous personas or have encouraged you to keep it up. This "schtick", to me, comes off soundling like a senile old man; is that what you're going for? I hope so because THAT is working for you.
ziik the soothsayer8/4/2017 5:34:06 PM
It's the gerbil thing, Bo. Once Dude is shamed off-the site, there will be another gerbil for the aggressive gerbils to attack. Shabby eared? Attack him. Crinkly tail? Attack him. Boring day? Attack him. There is no end. Why him? It does not matter. It's your bahavior that is troubling.
GW basketball needs more, not less, attention. This board needs more, not fewer posters.
Mailvan-MV, The has a lengthy history of ragging on posters and certain players, with the apparent purposed of driving some off. Hell, even coaches' spouses have commented to me on the phenomenon.
There are days you two seem to operate as a team.
You have some knowledge of the game and the regional establishment. Good for you. But, you're been wrong on an awful lot of stuff that you claimed to know, and your constant carping is annoying to read.
ziik the bomb thrower8/4/2017 5:39:05 PM
MV, senile old man?
What other prejudices do you want to pull out for us to see?
You've been a jerk here for more than a decade. You cannot even make a gratuitous insult on your own, without asking Bo and others to join in with you.
the dude8/4/2017 8:12:33 PM
When is the last time we've signed a top 40 Nationally ranked Guard? In recent years we had a few FrontCourt guys with a similar positional ranking. Can't recall a Guard. Joe and Kethan were ranked in the low 40s at their position nationally. Closest we've come in the 2010s best I can recall, FWIW.
colonial778/4/2017 8:45:21 PM
Thank you Rich Maier. Glad someone said it.
yawle8/5/2017 12:45:40 AM
so awesome to read 600 posts about infighting between posters that has nothing to do with the recruiting of the actual player.
bobo8/5/2017 1:50:33 PM
Shandon Brown now listed at #48 for PGs in that Scouts ranking. Still good. Would like to see an ESPN Recruiting write up on him and some updated info from Rivals and others on Brown with HS stats. At 5-10 145 lbs, Brown would likely have to be a very good 3pt shooter as well as his quickness to be successful in a good D1 program.
ziik the soothsayer8/5/2017 2:23:50 PM
Smart comments, Bobo.
I think some board posters want us to vote on recruits, to determine whether they are GW-worthy.
Give them the Elaine Benes treatment.
the dude8/5/2017 2:51:54 PM
Looks like they did drop him from 39 to 48, probably a result of cutting his list to GW and Quin. Still good indeed.
They also have the full list of offers including Oklahoma St and BC. He does have the 2 traits that almost all very undersized guys have that thrive have, he's built like a bull and he's explosive. He can muscle through guys and he can blow by them. The shooting is less clear, but he's very quick you can see it clearly on film. Plays for an elite prep team and elite AAU program. Until recently was ranked close to top 100 in the nation. Stock seems to have dropped some this summer.
ziik the soothsayer8/5/2017 3:24:16 PM
Yes, Dude, let's trust those services, totally.
At least until Thomas give the guy his eyeball test.
goggles8/6/2017 1:41:57 AM
Looks good. Like a much shorter Carl Elliott
billboard8/6/2017 9:20:16 AM
Amusing to read this thread. Never has so much been written by so many who have never, ever seen this recruit play. I bet you all have opinions on open heart surgery too. For example, Dude must have stayed in a Holiday Inn! Why don't you all chillax for a moment and let Mojo and staff do their thing. As has been said before ... Nobody that matters gives two shits about your worthless opinions (good or bad) on recruiting here. Some of you clowns have way too much time on your hands.
ziik the senile old man8/6/2017 1:18:40 PM
So, your opinion on our opinions matters? But ours do not?
What universe do you populate? A Soviet one?
the dude8/6/2017 2:43:24 PM
I think the analogy you are looking for "Bill" is people listing the 10 best Hosptials for Open Heart surgery (this board is so old, we've actually had that list or something akin to it) vs someone talking about his own Open Heart Surgery.
I care a lot more about the evaluations of Hospitals (or recruits) than the thoughts of one person's account of 1 open heart surgery (or 1 person saying he saw a player play) I'm interested in both, but I sure don't dismiss the former.
"should not discuss recruits if you haven't personally see them play" well that sounds awfully familiar "Bill." We have someone regularly pushing that concept here.
bo knows8/6/2017 4:33:19 PM
Yup Dude that would be me. Definitely agree that you shouldn't be talking out of your ass on recruits - and yes, I am regularly pushing that concept because you are regularly talking out of your ass on recruits here. Thank you Billboard for your public service announcement.
bc8/6/2017 7:00:05 PM
Bo Knows - I think you are over-reacting to The Dude's comments. As long as he's not personally attacking you, he's entitled to his opinion. Which you are welcome to disagree with - but not make comments like "you're talking out your ass". Can't we get back to civilized behavior? I know in the Trump world - insults are cheap, but let's get back our moral compass here. A new year - a new start would be nice.
bo knows8/7/2017 10:43:13 AM
BC, you would be right in about 99% of the cases. However, please don't forget that the Dude has consistently and personally denigrated many of our players over a long period of time. Do you remember the "wee little guard" comment frequently used to deride Jordan Roland? Or how about his unrelenting attacks on Paul Jorgensen? I could cite numerous other examples but no need because I think it is fairly clear. He is an internet bully and a few of us don't play that game - so a taste of his own medicine is in order until he changes his behavior. If you notice, this doesn't occur with any other poster on a regular basis.
mentzinger8/7/2017 11:24:40 AM
Katuka was offered by Miami, Hollis was offered by North Carolina, Beatty got offers from Rutgers and Seton Hall. Etc.
on this thread d8/7/2017 2:23:44 PM
Ziik the Soothsayer, you mentioned Bo's obsession with Dude. Bo said he's not obsessed. Let's have a look. Dude has not mentioned Bo on this thread, while Bo has hammered Dude 5 times. It's a small sample but let's consider Bo's obsession with Lonergan. He posted 200+ times that ML would not be fired. Presumably Bo would not call that an obsession either. Oh great Soothsayer do you have idea what Bo's definition of 'obsession' is? Obviously different than ours.
bo knows8/7/2017 2:50:40 PM
Sorry did not post 200+ times that Lonergan would not be fired. Not even close. Try two orders of magnitude less. But hey why let the facts get in the way of defending the biggest bullshit artist on this board who goes by many, many names and tries to create an echo chamber for his views?
squid8/7/2017 3:07:28 PM
So anyway, let's talk about this player and not some other stupid crap.
the dude8/7/2017 4:06:04 PM
Damian Hollis was a really good Colonial. Having a nice International Pro career as well. A few Damian Hollis' is actually exactly what this roster needs.
rich maier8/7/2017 4:46:52 PM
Bo, speaking of facts was it a fact that ML would not be fired?
danjsport8/7/2017 5:21:22 PM
Any insight into how the visit went?
bo knows8/7/2017 5:35:22 PM
Rich, I think anyone with a 4th grade education can tell the difference between a prediction (ML won't be fired) and a fact (ML was fired). Try to follow along - I know it is hard.
thinker8/7/2017 7:36:17 PM
I believe that Bo 100% believed that ML wouldn't get fired. I am close to 100% sure that ML and all around him thought he wouldn't get fired. I think that was a very reasonable belief at the time although it ended up wrong. I thought given the way GW is so risk averse, that there was little chance that ML would get fired - although I thought that if a lot of the stories about him were true I thought he should get fired. I'm not unhappy with that result either.
So while I think one could criticize Bo about certain ways that he discussed the ML situation (I'm sure many would criticize me for the way I discussed things too) but that he didn't see the firing coming -- that isn't a criticism I'd make of Bo.
gw698/7/2017 9:01:51 PM
Thiker--Why are you being so rational and level-headed?An affront
to the board!!Please stop.We all love recriminations-so lets go to our
sweet spot.By the way,I'm only partially kidding.
danjsport8/7/2017 10:07:12 PM
ask again--any insight into the visit? Ya know--actual talk about the player
goo colonials go8/7/2017 10:31:11 PM
Nothing beats the disappointment of seeing a recruiting post with a ton of comments near the top of the "recent posts" list, assuming it means something significant has happened with a potential new Colonial, and then reading through the same crap that 90% of threads devolve into these days.
I should really know better at this point.
rich maier8/8/2017 9:41:00 AM
Bo, you said that you posted 2 orders of magnitude less than 200. Two magnitudes less than 200 is 2. Of course you know that. So you're saying you only predicted 2 times about ML not getting fired. Bo you are the home of the whopper.
bo knows8/8/2017 10:45:16 AM
Rich, even you must know there is a difference between a predictive statement (He will not be fired) and statements relating to why/why not someone should be fired. 99%+ of my comments were discussing with folks like Thinker why/why not ... not exclaiming what would ultimately happen. No question I said he would not be fired but if I said it more than once it was twice. While I did not think he would be fired and based that on a source high up in the administration, I didn't control that decision so it would have been pointless to post 200 times he would not be fired even if I believed that to be true. I think folks like Thinker understand this. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.
a poster has no name8/8/2017 12:14:45 PM
Begins his Quinnipiac visit today.
bobo8/8/2017 12:45:33 PM
gw728/8/2017 1:21:14 PM
Looks like a playmaker. Creates for others. Haven't had that in a long time.
nd when did i defend dude simply noted he didnt mention you here but you mena8/8/2017 2:52:29 PM
Bo, you know nothing about 'order of magnitude'. You said you posted 2 orders of magnitude less than 200. Now 200 x .01 = 2. Every pre school kid knows that. So explain how you only posted twice (2) about ML possibly hitting the exits. It's not about whether you were right about ML it's your OBSESSIONS! and your obsession with Dude. Dude had not mentioned your name when I posted but you felt compelled to discuss him 5 times. Learn how to keep your mouth shut.
Apology to everyone except Bo. Some people appear to want to ruin the board. I'll work on containing myself.
rich maier8/8/2017 2:57:28 PM
Bo, join me in a big laugh at my expense. The above post was mine as you likely would have guessed. Seems i changed my poster name in mid sentence. It's tough getting old.
Bo, match that for a name.
thinker8/8/2017 2:58:47 PM
I have to say that I can't understand what the "Bo said ML won't get fired thing is about."
I just don't recall ANYONE posting at the time "oh you can count on it -- ML is getting fired." I don't think anyone really thought he was getting fired. I don't think the people that talked to the WashPost thought he'd get fired. There were people who wanted him fired and those that didn't want him fired and I recall the debate being fundamentally about wants and shoulds. There was way more debate about what ML actually said or actually did etc. and what that meant.
But predictions are just that. If a decision hasn't been made then you can never say with 100% certainty what will happen.
the dude8/8/2017 3:07:40 PM
What I like about this player, from watching on film, and what I suppose is what has generated a good deal of interests in him nationally despite his height, is indeed his ability to carve and dissect defenses to set up others 72. These days that is a rare skillset.
bigfan8/8/2017 4:10:09 PM
Thought we would hear that he signed, given the choices. We'll see if Quinnipiac wows him. Hard to imagine, but we'll see. Hope he doesn't run into Marfo.
And if Quinnipiac doesn't close the deal, try again and we should be able to do it. Odds are one out of 2 and we should have a big lead, even if he is keenly interested in political science.
bo knows8/8/2017 4:33:26 PM
Rich, see Thinker's post.
ziik the senile old man8/8/2017 4:35:54 PM
Run in to Marfo?
No, BF, no likelihood of him running into Marfo. Because the Q coach is going to have a sit down lunch with Marfo and the recruit, to get the low down on how GW sucks enough to have caused Marfo to transfer out.
That would be standard procedure, for damn near certain.
bobo8/8/2017 5:19:05 PM
Negative recruiting in college basketball? Say it ain't so!
the dude8/10/2017 1:38:30 AM
We should get an answer on this shortly. Down to 2 schools, he just wrapped up visit #2 after visiting GW a few days back. Hoping for a commit from this creative floor general very soon.
florida colonial8/18/2017 1:30:30 PM
the dude8/18/2017 2:24:46 PM
Well, we'lll have our answer in 24 hours. Here's to hoping for good news.
gwmaven8/18/2017 2:53:22 PM
Can't wait for another 2 star to sign! Thrilled. Really I am. Every 3 star has trimmed us off of their list.
a poster has no name8/18/2017 2:58:03 PM
Rivals and 247 have him as a 3 star....
the dude8/18/2017 2:59:23 PM
Shandon Brown is a 3 Star, top 50 ranked, Point Guard in the Nation.
a poster has no name8/18/2017 3:06:16 PM
And Marcus Littles, Frankie Policelli, Souleymane Koureissi, and Tre Wood are all pretty highly rated and still haven't trimmed us. And Mezzie Offurum seems to at least have high major interest.
gwmaven8/18/2017 3:08:50 PM
Verbal has him at two which is like a Rivals 3. He is 48th ranked PG in the country. Anyway, I saw his clips and would be a definite upgrade. Not sure why he is not recruited by bigger schools and why he is not ranked higher. Hopefully, he will prove them wrong. Thrilled if we get him.
gwmaven8/18/2017 3:12:37 PM
No Name, All of them are two stars other than Littles who is legit 3.5. He also has some nice suitors. Let's see. Love a big guy with a good little guy feeding him. Days of Koul and Rodgers. And we got the Illinois transfer as well. Hoping. Hoping.
a poster has no name8/18/2017 3:18:35 PM
Maven - All are at least 3 stars on 247 (and hold offers/interest from good programs, which I think is much more telling).
gwmaven8/18/2017 3:31:52 PM
At the very least I want to see profiles like this, which I don't see.
a poster has no name8/18/2017 3:34:20 PM
If Verbal Commits was better about updating the rankings fields you would! I'd check out the individual websites for the actual rankings.
boom8/18/2017 4:59:00 PM
If you are going to slam the recruit the day before his decision how about you stop lying and or lazily misstating facts about him 'Maven'. Dumbs down the board and it's just plain dumb period.
thinker8/18/2017 10:25:36 PM
I'm very sure that if MoJo wants him then I want him. If we're trying to sign someone in August more than a year away from coming to school, then I am also sure that MoJo really wants him.
the dude8/19/2017 1:25:13 AM
Top 40 (top 50 now?) Nationally ranked PG. Watch the film, the guy is extremely talented, a true playmaker for others. Creates penetration, prevents penetration, just what we need.
Tomorrow (today, EST) we find out if Shandon will be a Colonial and our future Floor General. We'd be very fortunate to land a guy like this, hope you pick GW Shandon!
bigfan8/19/2017 2:17:23 PM
Nothing on his Twitter right after 2 p.m.
Nothing on CNN today. Haven't checked ESPN.
Stii not planning on losing to Quinnipiac for reasons enumerated above, unless his major is going to be polling.
dmvpiranha8/19/2017 2:50:32 PM
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bigfan8/19/2017 3:12:32 PM
Welcome Shandon and family to the GW Colonial family!
the dude8/19/2017 3:20:00 PM
FANTASTIC!! Pumped! Welcome to GW Shandon!!
the dude8/19/2017 3:21:41 PM
FANTASTIC!! Pumped! Welcome to GW Shandon!!
gw698/19/2017 3:31:13 PM
I've been waiting for the news hoping we would land him. I had convinced
myself I could handle his turn down and accept the cards dealt. I accept!!
Very excited by this prospect.I hope all of us can enjoy this great news.
florida colonial8/19/2017 4:01:27 PM
I'm not sure how to post a video thats on twitter but take a look at the very coll video he posted on his twitter
florida colonial8/19/2017 4:04:15 PM
Link to his commitment video
gw05098/19/2017 4:12:39 PM
Yes! Welcome to Foggy Bottom Shannon! Get ready to Raise High the Buff and Blue!
thinker8/19/2017 4:14:35 PM
Dang - that video is pretty awesome. Interesting that he was on the same AAU team as Justin Mazulla.
gw05098/19/2017 4:15:13 PM
Stupid autocorrect. Welcome Shandon!
the dude8/19/2017 4:21:25 PM
gw698/19/2017 4:37:09 PM
Dude--know you wanted this one!! Good for MOJO and his staff.
Could end up being main cog of future GW successes.
maine colonial8/19/2017 5:05:21 PM
Awesome GW basketball news that warrants taking a break from writing about the Corcoran!
rich maier8/19/2017 5:46:00 PM
Welcome Shandon you've made a great choice.
the dude8/19/2017 5:50:37 PM
Doc 69, I sure did, I'm very pleased we landed Shandon today! Shandon you've chosen wisely!! Welcome to the family.
Any chance he could re-classify for 2017? Just a thought, not sure its an option.
gw alum abroad8/19/2017 6:59:24 PM
Hope that video took just a single take!
Welcome to The George Washington University! Hail to the Buff! Hail to the Blue!!!
ron jothstein8/19/2017 7:59:59 PM
Excellent news on a pleasant summer evening in DC. Very excited about this addition. welcome to GW Shandon!
bo knows8/20/2017 9:40:12 AM
The staff was elated to get him and he comes from a high pedigree AAU program. All good signs.
Question now becomes how the logjam at guard will play out. It's a good problem to have but right now with Bolden, Nolan, Mazzulla, Jack and Potter (and maybe even Williams) in addition to Brown it will be a challenge to find minutes for all those guards in 2018-19. I would expect a lot of 3 guard sets. Also I would be surprised if we are still recruiting guards in 2018.
Now the challenge is for Mojo and company to find 2 good posts and a wing for next year. Or one post and 2 wings.
bigfan8/20/2017 12:38:12 PM
Just thinking that. Two centers/or PFs.We are really short, so to speak, on inside players now and even more so in 2018 and beyond.
ziik the senile old man8/20/2017 1:03:30 PM
No worry, BF.
In 2018, the NCAA will be allowing intercollegiate trades. Two decent pg's for a solid wing might be right.
dmvpiranha8/20/2017 1:46:50 PM
Agreed with Bo and Bigfan. Actually I pretty much said the exact same thing as Bo in the Milton thread. I don't think any of Bujdoso, Wood, or Kirkwood will come here (although I wouldn't be opposed to getting Bujdoso I really like his game). We seem to be going hard after Littles. He plays a bit like Marfo but a little more skilled near the rim from what I saw in the highlights. I didn't see him take a lot of jump shots. I think we have a good chance of landing Ryan Young even with his long list of offers because I think his sister plays on one of the other sports teams at GW already (volleyball I think?). Our last commit would probably be a wing. All of them seem to have a good list of offers and seem to pretty skilled. Would be happy to get any of them.
mike k8/20/2017 7:28:34 PM
Welcome Shandon, best of luck on and off the court.
the mv8/21/2017 10:31:03 AM
Welcome to GW Shandon and family. Am excited to see you play.
MoJo definitely deserves some credit for recruiting players that fit the playing style he would like to play. Reminiscent of the Hobbs era where athleticism seemed to take priority over shooting skills. Lonergan flip-flopped that equation and it now appears that MoJo is flipping the script yet again. In 2018-19, we will have two smallish speedster point guards in Potter and Brown to presumably run the offense. You probably have to go all the way back to the days of TJ Thompson and Lafante Johnson off of the bench to find the last time a GW team had such speed from the point guard position.
boston native9/19/2017 3:01:07 AM
To those wondering, All shandon Browns offers were real actual offers. And not "social media offers" in which you see a lot in today's time. His reasoning for choosing between GW & Quinn. Was because of the relationship with the staff and feeling most comfortable & Coach Dunleavy who was just starting to late recruit Brown while he was at Villanova, ended up getting the head job at QU, which is the reasoning for QU being in the picture. If you knew the kid that he is, all the major programs who offered, wanted him as much as mojo did. But shandon is a self thinker and is a relationship kind've young man who connected with mojo the most, as mojo and staff put in tremendous effort. All the high majors, he had already visited a few amount of times hence not having to take the official visits in June. Brown also holds a 3.8 GPA, hence him having IVY league offers as well. Plays for the TOP 5 prep program in the nation and for one of the Top AAU programs in BABC, who produced, Wayne Seldon, Michael Carter Williams, Shabazz Napier and more. He's truly a one of a kind young man and his abilities are special and never doubtful as GW nation will soon see. @Bo & #Others
gw buff9/19/2017 6:27:59 AM
Smart kid @BostonNative. We definitely got a steal!
They have him as a 3star but hearing he's 4star caliber. Pumped! Judging from film his IQ & scoring ability is pretty impressive. The Knock on mazzula has been he doesn't shoot, so guessing Brown has the edge?
maine colonial9/19/2017 7:52:54 AM
Shandon's cousin and BABC teammate Bruce Brown had a great freshman season for the University of Miami last year including putting up 12 points against GW. LINK LINK
maine colonial9/19/2017 8:05:44 AM
Check out the video of Shandon that Coach Brown posted on August 14th: LINK
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gw6910/23/2017 9:24:10 PM
Great fun to watch.Cant wait for next year.Thanks,Dude.
the dude10/23/2017 9:36:14 PM
Doc, I'm glad someone spotted it. Hard to tell when these old threads re-emerge.
That's a helluva highlight reel, there's a certain former GW great he does remind me of.
bm10/24/2017 9:54:05 AM
Drives right every time
gw6910/24/2017 10:28:55 AM
I guess he needs to improve his game during his SENIOR year
in High school.
bobo10/24/2017 10:40:06 AM
Does seem to go right everytime he goes to the hole but can dribble left to at least create an open pull up jumper. Good form on his shot and gets good elevation on his jumper which is real important with his size. Probably will be a real liability on defense.
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Not sure I'd assume him to be a liability on defense just because of his size. Some of these guys can be very pesky and disruptive defensively.
gwjunky10/26/2017 7:03:22 AM
actually seen glimpses of him in person. The kid is a hell of a defender. Bigger guards struggle getting by him
gwjunky10/26/2017 7:05:57 AM
He can go left as well. Seems like the problem is people can't keep him from going where he wants when he wants
a10guy10/26/2017 2:55:12 PM
Amazed. Kid is Definitely 4star or 5star caliber. I mean let's face it rankings are all political anywho. These so called "rank analyst" go with which AAU program or coaches they have best relationships with or kid they can benefit from the most. AAU is a "you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" world. This is a Huge steal
bm11/8/2017 4:45:04 PM
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bigfan11/9/2017 5:09:27 AM
Welcome Shandon and nice family to the GW Colonial family!
Looking for the signing of one more tall classmate for Shandon and Mezie.
gw050911/9/2017 7:12:15 AM
Marcus Littles is already that tall classmate. Any word on his NLI?
Hoping for Littles and Policelli. Now THAT would be a fearsome foursome.
dmvpiranha11/9/2017 10:38:26 AM
Nice article on why he chose GW: http://www.gwsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/110917aab.html
Marcus, Mezie, and Shandon officially all signed their LOI: http://www.gwsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/110917aac.html
the mv11/9/2017 11:17:48 AM
Pretty easy to see how special a young man Shandon is. And what a great job MoJo did in recruiting him while caring for his overall well being. That article earns a "Raise High" for each of them.
the dude11/9/2017 3:30:22 PM
All 3 signed! Fantastic. Great looking class
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bm12/8/2017 11:44:48 AM
Try this link of video doesn't work.
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bm1/11/2018 4:43:42 PM
Nominated to be a 2018 McDonald's All-American.
dave1/11/2018 5:04:01 PM
So was Justin Mazzulla.
gw691/11/2018 7:03:14 PM
Thats my man Dave--always positive!
dave1/11/2018 8:12:50 PM
Are you happy with Justin's Mazzulla's performance this season? He's our 2nd best recruit out of 4... and you've seen him play right? That doesn't bode well for the new state of our recruiting affairs.
fan1/11/2018 8:26:53 PM
Who started the recuiting on Mazzulla? Coach Maurice, or Coach Mike? It's usually a process, Dave.
Nolan, he's a Coach Maurice player, last minute pickup. Not certain about the others.
long suffering fan1/11/2018 9:44:34 PM
Mazzula is a frosh. He is obviously not an immediate impact freshman, but few who come to GW are. They go elsewhere. There is really no basis to write him off so early I his college career. Further, I suspect if he was used differently, you may not have a star, but you may have a better player. What I do like about him is he seems to hustle and try hard. Let’s see what he gives us next season. Give the kid a chance
dominic1/12/2018 8:14:42 AM
I agree with the last comment. Mazzula will develop. I am guessing GW started working on him with Lonergan as coach, Mojo continued the processs. Mazz is not going to give up.
bm1/12/2018 9:28:46 AM
Mazzulla was nominated out of Rhode Island. Very little competition. Some states nominate a handful, others a whole phonebook (if anyone still remembers those).
long suffering fan1/12/2018 2:44:25 PM
Mazzula is a frosh. He is obviously not an immediate impact freshman, but few who come to GW are. They go elsewhere. There is really no basis to write him off so early I his college career. Further, I suspect if he was used differently, you may not have a star, but you may have a better player. What I do like about him is he seems to hustle and try hard. Let’s see what he gives us next season. Give the kid a chance
the dude1/14/2018 2:27:50 AM
Was this posted? I don't see it:
neil1/14/2018 1:21:28 PM
congradulations. I hope you are the best. We need the best with our increased rates, but god bless you.
bigfan1/14/2018 6:26:17 PM
Congrats to Shandon.
We are very excited for you to come to GW.
bm1/17/2018 10:57:19 PM
bm1/17/2018 11:00:25 PM
Didn't work. Just click on Shandon's twitter handle and look for the post.