|Position: shooting guard|
dmvpiranha4/10/2017 10:05:18 PM
Where would we be without wishful thinking?
dmvpiranha4/10/2017 10:07:06 PM
Haha I like the new default format. Also holds an offer from Chattanooga.
wax daddy4/10/2017 11:33:33 PM
Chattanooga coach now at umass, not sure if they've offered yet but may follow him there
dmvpiranha4/12/2017 12:53:00 PM
greenpoint ny4/12/2017 1:01:38 PM
Espn has him as a 3-star guard which means little but wanted to share anyways
jammer4/12/2017 1:06:33 PM
I like all of this recruiting activity. Encouraging!
cocolonial4/12/2017 3:17:25 PM
Thank goodness, the chance to have a good atheletic guard. Maybe someone who gasp drives to the rim.
bo knows4/12/2017 3:30:26 PM
Terry Nolan would be great pickup and a solid A-10 player. I like him as a combo guard. Plus he can help re-establish the Baltimore connection that yielded guys like Kwame Evans, Shawnta Rogers, Pat Ngongba, and Mike King. I need to ask MOCO Observer if he can tell us about him. He was chased away from this board over the ML dispute probably more than 6 months ago. But I believe he knows Terry very well.
pj4/12/2017 4:26:36 PM
Goodbye to GW transfers who just jacked up jump shots. Hello to better incoming players. I for one will not miss Sina at all. Time to upgrade
the dude4/17/2017 3:18:56 PM
Terry Nolan Jr recruiting thread...
Did he de-commit from Chatanooga following a Coaching change?
bo knows4/17/2017 5:44:11 PM
Yes was released from LOI following McCall leaving for UMass.
ziik4/17/2017 6:14:01 PM
Dude--If you have my email, get in touch, please
the dude4/18/2017 12:04:51 AM
Ziik, I'll fire an email at you now. Apologies for the delay.
notta hater4/18/2017 6:42:20 AM
better yet, get his cell number so you can text him.
dmvpiranha4/20/2017 8:20:52 PM
baltimore man4/20/2017 11:16:05 PM
Not a GW fan but may be willing to become one if my guy Terry ends up in DC. I think if he comes to GW you will all be very happy. He is a player on the rise.
baccas924/21/2017 8:42:39 AM
Baltimore Man get him here!
gw05094/21/2017 8:48:06 AM
Baltimore Man, tell Terry that if he comes to GW HE will be very happy
bm4/22/2017 8:28:22 AM
If Nolan picks GW, with Bolden, Justin Williams, Justin Mazzulla and Maceo Jack, that would be five 6-3/6-4 guards/wings on the roster for next year. Coincidentally (?), MoJo is 6-4.
bigfan4/23/2017 2:54:07 PM
If we want him, hope Terry realizes that this is his best basketball and educational opportunity.
A great school in a safe area in an exciting city, close to home, but far enough away to be independent.
Sometimes things come as a surprise.Making the most of an unexpected bonus opportunity that suddenly gives you an uexpected bonus and better chance is the hallmark of a man who knows when to act decisively.
Before this wonderful chance that won't be around long, disappears and you are out this great luck.
Terry seems like a very smart young man who when he comes here on his visit, will recognize for himself the value of immediately grabbing this wonderful basketball and school choice.
the dude4/24/2017 7:45:46 PM
Nolan is a talented guard who just oozes upside. He's still evolving physically but he has pretty good size for the backcourt and very long arms. He's quick and athletic covering the court, stopping/going, and changing directions on both ends of the floor. He's pretty instinctive attacking the rim, not just with a quick first step but also very little wasted motion on his way to the rim. He rarely looks for his pull-up but when he does he shows an impressive ability to rise up and fire.
He's not known as a shooter, and definitely needs to become more consistent but he has good mechanics with a smooth and compact release that suggest that his stroke could one day be a weapon with further development. He's physically undeveloped, very lean, and consequently unable to play through contact right now on either end of the floor. He's a little bit of a contradiction in that his natural instincts are good, but his decision making with the ball sometimes isn't.
He's far from a finished product and has very significant potential. He may not be efficient or physically ready for the college level yet but he's quick, long, and shows potential to evolve into a true three-range scorer.
tmj4/24/2017 7:47:53 PM
Welcome to GW Terry!!
the dude4/24/2017 7:49:06 PM
tmj4/24/2017 7:53:33 PM
I'm amazed we beat out UMass sinc he had previously committed to their new coach.
the dude4/24/2017 7:57:11 PM
goggles4/24/2017 8:03:56 PM
Great news! You chose wisely Terry!
florida colonial4/24/2017 8:14:47 PM
This is the news we needed. Its been pretty depressing recently and I think the whole community need a pick me up. Thanks Terry for that. Lots of positives going forward. Let stop the infighting and focus on basketball. I look forward to the majority of posts being about recruits and players.
Terry enjoy your 4 years at a wonderful school. Welcome to the whole Nolan family.
mike k4/24/2017 8:33:45 PM
Welcome Terry, wishing you the best on the court and in the classroom.
class of 054/24/2017 8:36:21 PM
You had me at quick and athletic:
Nolan is a talented guard who just oozes upside. He's still evolving physically but he has pretty good size for the backcourt and very long arms. He's quick and athletic covering the court, stopping/going, and changing directions on both ends of the floor.
boom4/24/2017 8:50:48 PM
Wow, really good news. He is a 2018?
florida colonial4/24/2017 8:59:05 PM
boom4/24/2017 9:06:41 PM
Woah even better! Super!
hondo4/24/2017 9:13:24 PM
Awesome, looks like a real player! Great stuff!
the dude4/24/2017 9:17:29 PM
Terry is an Explosive dunker:
Major Hops Dunker
the dude4/24/2017 9:21:05 PM
Another one, long arms, nice hops:
Throw it down Terry
jammer4/24/2017 9:32:19 PM
Really pumped to land a 2017. Just what GW needed.
rich maier4/24/2017 10:23:22 PM
Terry welcome to GW. You've made a very good choice.
adclub4/24/2017 10:30:02 PM
Great interview with Terry
bigfan4/24/2017 10:39:07 PM
Very personable, articulate young man.
And welcome Terry's family. He's in good hands, not far away.
Work with your strength coach, listen to your team coaches, study hard, keep up the work ethic that brought you here and you will have real potential to make a difference.
Keep applying yourself and you can have a great four years at a great school.
the dude4/24/2017 10:58:26 PM
Other schools in the mix for Terry:
St. Bonaventure, Siena, Robert Morris, UAB, and VCU.
As mentioned above:
First Team All-Metro after averaging 17 points, six rebounds, and five assists per game for Mt. Carmel (29-11). The biggest strengths of his game are his athleticism and ability to score from all three levels on the floor.
bobo4/24/2017 11:47:49 PM
Good signing. #11 in MD by ESPN and All Met for Baltimore by the Sun. Reports have him as athletic but lean and not a top shooter yet. Is he ready to play significant minutes next year in the A10? Not sure.
I don't buy the comparisons to Savage. Savage was a beast: physically strong and could finish in traffic easily. Nolan is not that at this point.
I would compare him to more like a Tim Johnson for GW under Hobbs. Supper athlete who was quick and great hopps and good shooting form but not a great shooter. TJ didn't develop into a great shooter despite his good shooting from. Hopefully Nolan will continue to develop.
bo knows4/24/2017 11:50:37 PM
Terry is more skilled than Savage but not as powerful an athlete yet.
the dude4/25/2017 12:36:03 AM
Bobo, nice analysis, I concur. (Agree also, Savage was a physical beast.)
Nolan's stock rose a lot during the year. He cut his list a year ago down to 12 schools, they were all in the Siena range. After de-committing, another level or two were after him. Good signing.
hondo4/25/2017 1:02:21 AM
Pumped! Watched these videos of Terry I like the athleticism.
bmorefan4/25/2017 1:36:39 AM
Some of you guys are sleeping on Terry Nolan. Kid can play very unselfish, very athletic, quick, can score at all 3 levels, humble. Great student as well. He just needs to get stronger an continue to develop physically. If he would've went to prep school and became 2018 High majors were coming fast. Ask Georgetown, Seton Hall, Tennensse, WVU etc... Great get for the GW staff. IMO. Time will tell.
bleeds buff4/25/2017 1:53:41 AM
Nice work DMVp you were all over this at each stage.
the mv4/25/2017 9:58:46 AM
Welcome aboard Terry and the entire Nolan family. Sounds like a good get by MoJo and staff.
One advantage of all of the player defections is an opportunity to tell kids that they have a realistic opportunity to earn significant minutes as a freshman. Having such an opportunity at the A10 level is a nice carrot to dangle.
It''s interesting to see a shift in recruiting based on skills. When ML first got to GW, he could not get over how poor an outside shooting team he inherited. Even with the Core 4 recruiting class (plus Zeke playing in his first season for GW), ML knew he was bringing in players first and foremost (which of course were badly needed) but not necessarily great shooters. Over time, he would bring in Mo Creek, Nick, Tyler, Alex, Paul, Yuta, Jordan...guys who he believed were capable outside shooters. The philosophy was well intended but a bit of an overreach as it resulted in an overall lack of quickness and athleticism, particularly when playing defense. I believe the change began with last year's class with guys like Jair, Kevin, Arnaldo and Colin brought in more for the special skills each brought to the table and less having to do with their abilities to connect from the outside. (The combination of returning shooters plus Jaren and Pat gave the team enough perimeter shooting would be my guess as to the prevailing wisdom.) While I have yet to see the three incoming freshmen play, each has been advertised as having advanced skills aside from shooting the basketball (Mazzoula might be the exception to this.). One question worth paying attention to is whether the team has now overreached in the other direction (not enough outside shooting) or whether MoJo has found the right balance.
nj colonial4/25/2017 10:10:03 AM
Nice pick-up for GW, welcome to the THE DC team Terry and family! Raise High the Buff & Blue!
greenpoint ny4/25/2017 10:21:31 AM
I wouldnt be too worried about 3-point shooting. If we play good defense:
1. we might not need the 3 as much
2. Athleticism > 3pt shooting as we have seen in the past
3. Bring in specialist like a "Hart" sharpshooter
4. As Pato proved in his senior year, develop the three-point shot.
I dont know about you guys but it was heartbreaking when opponents would blow by us for easy layups. I guess im old school because I believe defense wins championships. When we 1-3-1 opponents and they had no idea how to break it it was a huge advantage. How many games did the havoc defense help vcu win games..and on and on lol
bobo4/25/2017 12:49:21 PM
All good college teams these days shoot 3s. It looks like Mazzoula and Nolan look like are capable but not high level 3pt shooters, as is Jair. I'm sure there will be games were GW shoots poorly and the offense will look just bad. Hopefully they will improve on defense enough to partially offset the decrease in offensive efficiency next year.
boom4/25/2017 12:54:35 PM
Scouting analysis all suggest Nolan has nice mechanics and will develop into a good shooter. He's not a bad shooter he's an infrequent one because of his slashing quickness
the dude4/25/2017 2:48:48 PM
Quick, really long arms, athletic, 6'3, just the profile this roster needed.
bobo4/25/2017 3:49:17 PM
There's also many shooters with decent mechanics that don't turn into good 3pt shooters: see Tim Johnson or Travis King for GW in years past. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't become consistent outside shooters.
the dude4/25/2017 4:04:36 PM
Travis King shot 39% from 3 in his college career. His issue was more lack of athleticism.
If Nolan was already a really good shooter, we'd have no chance of landing him, 6'3, long armed, athletic, good shooters go to high BCS schools. If he does becomes a really good shooter he might become a truly great Colonial, but his current assets are what we badly needed to add to the roster
ziiks third cousin twice removed4/25/2017 4:09:55 PM
This guy is quick, and GW needs quick
He has a nose for the basket, and drives in, all the way. He's athletic. I have not seen any video of his defense, but, with the ball in his hands, he is all in.
Maybe he will be a dweeb. But, not the way he looks
bigfan4/25/2017 7:41:07 PM
Not a bad idea to bring in a shooter or a big who can shoot.
Let's not forget we are losing zTyler, who was both.
bobo4/25/2017 8:19:56 PM
Maybe more like Bryan Bynes: 6-3 super quick athlete who shot .311 on 3s his freshman year but never got better shooting. I always expected him (and Johnson) to become better shooters because they had decent shooting form. I always thought Wynton Witherspoon also would become a good shooter as he was a great athlete and created open looks for himself but ended up with a .402 FG his senior year.
the dude4/25/2017 8:49:42 PM
Yes, for some reason Bynes actually regressed as a shooter.
FWIW, ESPN's scouting report on Bynes:
June, 2008: Bryan is a very good catch and shoot player who is virtually automatic when left open behind the three-point line. In addition to having near perfect mechanics, he also has deep range on his jumper when catching the ball in rhythm.
gw724/25/2017 9:28:57 PM
Terry looks much better than Bynes.no offense to Bynes.
gw class of 19494/25/2017 9:42:26 PM
i am Jewish
gw hoop scoop4/25/2017 9:42:43 PM
Terry Nolan is not very good at basketball
bo knows4/25/2017 9:45:43 PM
Correct GW Hoop Scoop. That's his father. But Terry Nolan Jr. is very good at basketball and will be helping the Colonials for years to come. Scoop that.
bobo4/25/2017 9:52:46 PM
How so, GW72. Please use as much detail as you can in describing the difference between Bynes and Nolan JR.
gw hoop scoop4/25/2017 10:09:26 PM
Bo Knows, he sucks still. Don't worry you'll see soon
bo knows4/25/2017 10:19:29 PM
Not worried. Terry will be fine.
baltimore bee4/25/2017 10:33:52 PM
GW Scoop lol yeah he sucks like all the other runt guards that have been brought in here over the years who couldn't play dead in a western movie. Terry Nolan is better than guys like Griffin Hart Roland Bryant Cartagena Sina Jorgensen ... not even close. You will see what a real guard looks like.
bobo4/25/2017 10:46:20 PM
We don't know that yet, Baltimore B. We've never seen Nolan play in college yet. Roland is a 40% 3pt shooter...in college. Jorgensen was a considerably higher ranked recruit than Nolan is right now.
You might be a big fan of Baltimore catholic league high school ball but, for us fans of GWU, we don't yet know how Nolan's game will translate to the A10.
bo knows4/25/2017 10:46:48 PM
Baltimore Bee even though I agree with you that Terry has a chance to be very good here that's a little harsh.
thinker4/25/2017 10:48:22 PM
Travis King had a serious knee(?), leg(?), foot(?) injury early in his career and he never really recovered his lift/explosiveness. He was definitely a what might have been kind of guy.
Tim Johnson, aka Hooper was the perfect package as a player, EXCEPT for basketball IQ. He just didn't really know where to go, what to do, when to do it on the floor.
Bynes was an amazing athlete who had a number of awesome moments at GW but infortunately wasn't able to develop a consistent shot.
Out of these three guys - Nolan, Maceo, and Mazulla you hope that at least two turn out to be good players and maybe one be a very good player. If Jair continues to improve, then we have a strong versatile backcourt for years to come. I think that MoJo knows better what he's trying to build right now than we do since he had to pretty much stick with all of ML's system last year.
I'm excited to see what MoJo plans to do with all these athletic versatile guards.
bo knows4/25/2017 10:55:41 PM
Bobo you are right that we don't know exactly how Nolan's game will translate. In fact, we never know how any of our recruits' games will translate since we don't get the very top talent. As I've mentioned before, the bright lights get to guys. Got to Roland most of his freshmen year for example.
That said, everything, I've read, seen or been told about Terry Nolan is that he is a guard who is on the rise and has a huge upside. And he is tough minded meaning he is a hard worker and will fix whatever is broken. No guarantees in this business but I think we got a good one.
Once he shows up at GW no one cares about rankings or who else recruited you. They care about one thing - can you play?
the dude4/25/2017 11:00:39 PM
Agreed, athletic Guards with size, eager to see them. Not sure what value there is Bobo in conjuring up past GW guards who didn't quite make the grade.
What this roster most needed the past season was Guards who contain dribble penetration, as we had zero. Quick long athletic Guards are the type who typically can, can these 3? We'll soon see, can't wait.
bobo4/26/2017 12:51:38 AM
If you want to talk about Nolan's athleticism, fine. But people need to slow their roll with the casual assumption that a athletic not shooter will develop his outside shot in college or that their overall game will translate to college. If you've followed college basketball or GW for a number of years, you'd see the falicy in those assumptions: players like TJ, Bynes, Weatherspoon, Jorgensen, Marfo and others. Shooting guards who aren't great shooters in HS often remain below average shooters in college.
We shall see. Nolan was ranked #11 for MD and the #67 rated SG nationally by ESPN. Jorgensen was ranked #56 for PGs. Mazzula #89 as PG. Swan 56 for SF and Cimino #25 for PF. We shall see of all of them.
It is clear the syle of play for GW will change. We have no idea right now if the effectiveness will improve.
the dude4/26/2017 1:29:17 AM
Your central premise, is accurate, no guarantee of significant development in shooting (examples go in both directions, Tyler, Pato, even Kev and Doctor John improved dramatically)
PJ actually was a good shooter, it was the rest of his game, including the turnovers, defense and difficulty finishing 2's around the basket (basically Sina with more speed but also a lot more Turnovers/lesser decision making) We've had too many guys in recent years who were ONLY effective when their shots from range were falling. You've often stated that JR was effective when his shot was falling, that was very true. When it wasn't, not so much. Same was true with Sina, PJ, etc.
We needed more guys who are effective in a variety of ways, who can have good games beyond making jump shots. Quickness, athletic ability, long arms, those traits don't slump. We haven't had a Guard like that since Kethan transfered.
gw694/26/2017 8:49:54 AM
I know winning is everything--but I'll,for now,settle for watching some
good athletes play some ball!!Its just pretty.As I get older(70)I guess
I appreciate the aesthetics ALMOST as much as the victory.
rich maier4/26/2017 9:27:36 AM
Bobo, you're all over the place with Nolan Jr. Comparing him to Bynes? How many games have you seen Terry play? 10, 20? All his HS games? Still weeping over the last coach. It's sad.
bobo4/26/2017 9:43:58 AM
Bynes was a 6-3 super athlete, ultra quick, good handle with excellent hops. He was a very well regarded recruit out of HS with good shooting form but inconsistent from deep.
Ya, bad comparison to Nolan Jr. Thanks for you usual useless commentary Richard.
the mv4/26/2017 9:48:45 AM
My sense is that we're transitioning from a team that will win if we score 75+ a game to a team that will win if we hold our opponents under 60 a game. Not a compliment or a criticism, just a hunch really based on the composition of this team.
bo knows4/26/2017 10:00:25 AM
Bobo, with all due respect, you know rankings don't mean shit after about the top 50-75 players. For one these players are often not in the same gym at the same time. There are three AAU circuits and a number of talented off circuit players. Second, comparing rankings across years doesn't make sense either. Some years there is a stronger point guard class than other years. So the #29 PG could be better than #15 PG in another year. Third, often the guys doing the rankings have either biases towards/against certain AAU programs or types of players (athleticism vs. skill) or they are inexperienced. You often don't know who did the evaluation. There are good and bad evaluators.
My buddy, MOCO Observer, can tell you about a kid named Emmanuel Omogbo. Was ranked 2* out of high school, went to JUCO and then to Colorado State where he was a double-double machine. Could he have been good at GW? Absolutely but based on rankings, GW probably didn't recruit him. Recently, he was named all first-team at the Portsmouth Invitational, same team as Tyler.
Point is don't be fooled. I would never use Terry's rankings to justify his recruitment and I wouldn't use them against him either. I go by what my own eyes tell me plus what guys like MOCO Observer tell me - he lives this stuff daily and knows or has seen most kids in DMV and Baltimore. I know many college coaches have him on speed dial for opinions about local kids. He tells me Terry is a worker, a good kid and has plenty of upside. Skill-wise he can attack rim and his shot improved tremendously ove the past 12 months. He has long wingspan for height and can defend.
Another point that was made to me and this may be most telling - his recruitment was way higher after he got his release than it was initially. That shows me college coaches recognized his improvement over the past year. I like getting players who aren't tapped out physically. He has upside but it will be up to Mojo and staff to develop him.
bobo4/26/2017 10:54:35 AM
I don't disagree with any of that, Bo. But Nolan, like all recruits, are what they are right now. Potential to become a good shooter doesn't make him a good shooter right now. Some players develop and some do not. What I'm pushing against is the casual assumption by some on the board that Nolan will become a good shooter in college or Mazzula will become a good PG in the A10. We don't know that yet.
Some players come ready to go from day 1 in college. These are more developmental players. Hopefully they will but we shall see in the long term.
bo knows4/26/2017 11:01:02 AM
Bobo, I agree with that. But with any recruit all we have is potential and at GW mostly we don't get finished products. All we can do is make educated guesses about projection to the next level. The leading indicators suggest Terry has a chance to be a good one. But as you say, time will tell.
tennessee colonial4/26/2017 11:11:04 AM
He's quick, but how fast is he?
colonial ny4/26/2017 11:15:56 AM
I am excited to see Terry on this team.
As for the questions about his shooting, if he can get to the rim 8 or 9 times a game and make most of those shots and draw some fouls along the way, I'd happily take that type of player and not be too worried about whether he can hit a mid-range jumper. I've seen him all of 0 times, but if he is indeed a slasher that can get to the basket, then I say: Terry is going to have a big role on this team, because it is one of the areas we need help desperately!
bmoreguy4/26/2017 11:16:42 AM
Have any you guys seen Terry play live in the last 6 months? If not how do you have opinion on his shooting. Terry"s shooting is not problem. He will need to get stronger and put on weight, but the talent, skill set & athleticism are there. He also plays both ends of the court unlike kids such as Griffin, Bryant, Roland etc.
He just needs great strength n condition program , and if that happens watch out. Again, if would've went to Prep school and was class 2018 he would've been High major recruit.
bo knows4/26/2017 12:09:17 PM
BMoreGuy - We have lots of guys here with opinions on things they determine through the internet not their own eyes/knowledge. Actually check that - probably mainly one guy with 50 different screen names lol. Read up above and look for a post at 7:45pm on 4/24. That is his sum knowledge - ESPN. He couldn't pick Terry out of a lineup of OLMC players lol. Focused on rankings smh.
gw724/26/2017 1:25:41 PM
Bobo it does appear you are bashing these recruits to bolster your opinion on Mojo.
2cents4/26/2017 4:44:35 PM
Funny, BMore, that's what they said about those guys, too. Basically, "They are better than the ones they were replacing" "Wait until you see..." "All he needs is a little size..." and yet, there they all went. I would warn against that on this board! I hope he is all he is cracked up to be. Certainly looks promising.
bo knows4/26/2017 4:53:12 PM
Nobody was hyping Griffin and Bryant here. As for Roland, he was an unknown except to a few of us. Roland ultimately proved he could play here. However, none of them had the kind of high school/AAU success that Nolan had versus similar competition.
2cents4/26/2017 5:11:15 PM
the dude4/26/2017 5:24:24 PM
Bobo was actually one of the very few people posting honest assessments of ML era recruits when they signed. This board could use more of that, not less, no matter who is the HC. Doesn't change my personal enthusiasm about Terry, which is high.
the dude4/28/2017 1:04:18 AM
Not a great indicator for the new UMass Coach he can't bring his recruit from Chatanooga to the A10. Terry when asked said the relationship was stongest with a Chatanooga assistant, more so than the HC.
I'd remember that Coach's name, Chatanooga is no easy sell for a guy like this.