sw8/11/2017 12:14:24 PM
This can't be right. My Sec 212 seats are now going to be $320? I thought they were $200 last season.
ziik the senile old man8/11/2017 12:26:15 PM
New, gold plated toilet fixtures. Even surplus, from Trump Taj Mahal, they cost.
sw8/11/2017 12:29:51 PM
This is correct! 212 and 217 are now $320. GW ticket office said an extra home game and the BB&T ticket now included in season ticket price is why tickets are up over 50 percent in my section.
Though when I told him I would simply buy an orange seat for $100 and sit in 212 and the blue seats whenever I wanted, he said he could work with me to get my last season's price.
sw8/11/2017 12:34:29 PM
I can't believe how outrageous this is. My average ticket price per game last year was $15. One additional home game this year would increase my price about $15 or $16. So the BB&T ticket is the extra $100? This is OUTRAGEOUS!
sw8/11/2017 1:22:41 PM
Why do i have the feeling that Gtown and BB&T strong armed GW into making season ticket holders buy the BB&T game? Those tickets are always overpriced at $40 when you can get them on stubhub for $20 in lower bowl and $10 everywhere else.
sw8/11/2017 1:24:51 PM
So Blue Seats are going up from $525 to $580. Why is their increase less than mine? Why am I paying an extra $120 for one extra home game and BB&T when blue seats are playing an extra $55? This is a fucking joke!
sw8/11/2017 1:28:12 PM
This seems like another ham handed season ticket increase by GW. In years past it was justified. They came off the big 2013-2014 season and added home games against UVA and other big schools. But this is completely OUTRAGEOUS. Why should I, or anyone, pay to sit in 212 when they are charging the same price for all the yellow seats?
220.127.116.118/11/2017 2:25:43 PM
Tell us how you really feel?
hht8/11/2017 2:43:22 PM
Don't like the price? Buy a cheaper product or don't buy anything at all.
nj colonial8/11/2017 3:44:10 PM
Still a good value and the money goes to support GW Athletics.
sw8/11/2017 3:50:45 PM
"Don't like the price? Buy a cheaper product or don't buy anything at all. "
Thanks for the wisdom, jerkoff. Did your father teach you that?
fredd8/11/2017 3:51:26 PM
it totally sucks for folks for whom the extra $$$ is a deal breaker especially when the team is weak, BUT in the arms race that college sports where are they supposed to get the money?
ziik the senile old maneven8/11/2017 3:58:21 PM
I grew up with no father in sight. But, I did learn to spot a whiner. Seven whiney posts is the mark of a whiner.
sw8/11/2017 6:25:13 PM
First of all who taught you math?
$200/17 home games = $11.70/game which is an absurdly good deal for 212 sideline seats not even the worst seats in the house.
Second of all $320/19 = $16.80/game.
Still a damn good deal to see probably Top 10 Miami, 3 other Tourny teams VCU, URI, Princeton and Harvard next best team in the Ivy plus Temple in BB&T......
sw8/12/2017 10:52:51 AM
"it totally sucks for folks for whom the extra $$$ is a deal breaker especially when the team is weak, BUT in the arms race that college sports where are they supposed to get the money?"
Oh god, spare me the "college sports arms race" nonsense. They're scamming season ticket holders by making them buy the BB&T tickets. BB&T is a joke, those tickets are barely worth the paper they are printed on and now they want to force season ticket holders to buy them? Give me a fucking break.
We average 2300 fans per game and our ticket sales strategy is to grab existing season ticket holders by the balls and squeeze them? Complete bullshit.
I'll probably just downgrade, save myself $220 and still sit in my same seats (or better) for all but the two or three games per year we'll actually have decent crowds.
Nice going, GW ticket sales morons.
sw8/12/2017 11:01:03 AM
"But, I did learn to spot a whiner. Seven whiney posts is the mark of a whiner. "
Yes, heaven forbid someone dissent against our beloved program's illogical and extorionist season ticket sales strategy. And heaven for fucking bid someone speak out about a 60 percent increase in their ticket price. 20 percent would be on thing, but 60 percent? Out rageous.
Forcing people to buy BB&T tickets is disgraceful. And you're a fucking disgrace for telling dissenters to shut up. The program is trending downward and you're telling everyone to get in line. Who's the real fan?
ziik the senile old man8/12/2017 11:05:42 AM
SW, reading words not written is a sign of something else. Maybe lunacy. You might have that checked out.
Keep whining. How's that?
hondo8/12/2017 12:08:33 PM
Stop your whining. Chillax man
fredd8/13/2017 12:17:01 AM
Sorry SW you still haven't answered my question. What the acceptable trigger for a price increase? NCAA bid? 20 wins? 3 years? 5 years? 10 years? GW plays in the second best non football conference; so is your preferred strategy is to mud wrestle with Fordham and Duquesne and pay attention to the all sport winning percentage? I'm sure they knew how fucking well this would play given how weak the team is and still did it. Maybe they really are stupid I just happen not to think so. The real problem is the 2300 avg attendance You referenced which is a reflection of thousands of students and alums who don't care. Not the administration, players or coaches. It's just the way GW is and that is what really pisses me off.
ziik the senile old man8/13/2017 12:13:48 PM
My guess, SW wants a discount, for showing up and suffering with the hard core fans.
free quebec8/14/2017 5:38:48 PM
Have they released the schedule? Any idea what we are getting for these higher prices?
For what it's worth, funny that they extra game and BB&T last year would be the excuse for this year's increase when last year's also went up even without BB&T or that extra game.
bobo8/15/2017 9:12:28 AM
Probably not worth it to get the full season tickets again this year as I've done for the last 20+ years, especially not my ussual 3 tickets. It's very hard to see that GW will put a top product on the court this season. They've had bad teams in the past like the ones at the end of Hobbs/beginning or Lonergan. But at least the price was still right for those teams.
I'm not sure what's the value proposition for the significant price increase for 2017-2018 season?
mentzinger8/15/2017 9:34:43 AM
I'm sure the feeling is our home attendance is so low that there will be minimal exits and any departures would be made up with the price increase. I have the same reaction to this as I do about the people who complain about taxes. The price of everything goes up. Why be surprised?
the mv8/15/2017 9:37:32 AM
The most basic tenet with respect to pricing anything is supply and demand. The supply of GW tickets is a constant as there are the same number of seats to fill each season. That leaves demand. When there is a demand for those seats, prices should rise. When there is a lack of demand, prices should fall until enough of a demand is built back up. The school has taken the position that there will not be a high enough demand amongst new customers so it will increase revenue by charging more to their season ticket holders. The calculated bet is that very few season ticket holders will give up their tickets. They are likely right about this but if enough do decide that this is too much, then this becomes a gamble that serves to alienate a fan base. Even 'Loyal to GW" has some form of price tag.
My seats saw a modest increase, practically no increase, if you take away the forced-to-purchase BB&T tickets. With a charitable tie-in, I'm not bothered by this. What I am anticipating being very problematic will be my seat assignment at the BB&T. Under the new arrangement, the BB&T now piggybacks a Georgetown home game meaning that the Hoya season ticket holders will retain their usual seats which will be the best ones. That means we get to watch the Hoyas battle Elon University from undoubtedly one of the corners, then watch their fans leave as we are left to play Temple in front of fewer people than one would normally find in temple around the High Holidays. This is a far cry from roughly 20 years worth of this event, where GW seats were no worse than Maryland's.
ziik the senile old man8/15/2017 9:48:36 AM
I have read on this site that marketing trumps all laws of economics and finance.
Throw some posters up on the exterior of The Smith Center, and in the Metro System. Say its so, and they will come. I read it, right here, back in 2007 or so.
It will happen again. SW will be begging for a couple more seats.
gonzo8/15/2017 10:55:17 AM
Yup, mine went up like 10 percent. Which is fine. Embrase change on the court. Will be coming to the new season with an open mind and will assume positive intent. Being critical and upset about every little thing is exhausting.
squid8/15/2017 11:38:12 AM
Even at $300 the tickets are still pretty inexpensive, and I tihnk they have a cheaper rate for young alums if that's what you are. Plus like someone else said, consider this a donation to the program -- they can use your ticket money for airfare to visit a recruit, or some new equipment for the current players, or any number of other things.
thinker8/15/2017 11:40:22 AM
I don't know about all of this. Of course I don't live in DC any more so can't buy tickets either way. But for all the years that I got my prefered endzone tickets for $180. If you get some premium cable channels that's like one month of cable tv -- That's basically for free. And when the tickets were virtually free, it still didn't lead to better attendance. And I'm with Mentz on this like most things - why are people surprised when the price of things go up? The ONLY point of college basketball (and college sports in general) is to make money for the schools.
bo knows8/15/2017 11:56:28 AM
The simple fact is that some in the GW fanbase want champagne on a beer budget. We have a low ticket price relatively speaking. We have sparse attendance relatively speaking. We need the money. Ticket prices have more to do with budgetary considerations than anything else performance related. Unless attendance spikes this year, expect future increases across the board. It's simple math and has little to do with anyone's perception of where the program is or where it is going. The bet is that if you are still here after all that has gone on, you will agree to the increase even if you really don't want to because you support the program. I think that is fairly good bet.
free quebec8/15/2017 12:00:57 PM
No one answered my question, so I'll ask again. Did the schedule come out and I missed it, or are they asking for season ticket commitments before telling us what games we're getting?
nj colonial8/15/2017 12:03:47 PM
Just renewed my season tickets, gladly. It's about being a loyal supporter of GW and its teams. If we want a consistantly successful, top-level program, we need to support it. I've said it before, bigtime programs require bigtime fans.
the mv8/15/2017 12:19:24 PM
FQ: No formal release of the schedule yet. We do know there will be home games against Miami, Harvard, Princeton, two preliminary games in the Vegas event (Rider and Hampton if I remember correctly) and Temple in the BB&T. Road game at Penn State for sure, Florida State I would think, Xavier and either KSU or ASU in Vegas. Figure the usual 300ish prospects to fill out the Smith Center schedule. Incidentally, it is this way every year. The ticket renewal process normally starts in July and is always ahead of the announcement of the complete schedule.
Fredd, Mentz, Thinker and perhaps others...to be fair, I don't think SW is objecting to a price increase as much as the extent to which his season ticket cost is being raised. Plus, other ticket section prices are not being increased quite so dramatically. It sounds like the school is playing "catch-up" with certain sections feeling that the value has far exceeded what they've historically been charging. Like every year, the consumer has options..pay it, move to a lower cost section, buy fewer games, or don't buy at all.
bc8/15/2017 12:20:27 PM
FQ, not in the loop any more, but I've seen nothing about an actual schedule though OOC shedules have been mentioned here and there. Could be wrong.
porter718/15/2017 3:10:06 PM
If you don't like the price increase, you can always sit in different seats. My seats (first row endzone) didn't go up and are a steal for $100.