September 10.  Under means it will be announced before the 10th; over means after the 10th.

In a shocking "break from character", I'm going with the UNDER.  Come on athletic department, you can do this!

Despite how poorly communicative this department can be at times, I think we can all safely assume that it won't be Duke.

Rumor has it that our old fried Blue Seats has been consulting with AD Kvancz and has advised said AD to upgrade the the home OOC by scheduling 2nd tier high school teams to play the Colonials at the Smith Center.  While Kvancz agrees that this would be an improvement over last season's schedule, I'm told that AD Kvancz is struggling with the negotiation process trying to avoid committing to home-and-home commitments.  Time will tell.

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse....Hawaii is a multi-team event that counts as 1 game towards the overall allotment even though the team plays three games; this is why you see some schools finish their regular seasons having played 30 games.  Therefore, if this is the complete schedule, we've actually left two additional regular season games on the table, not just one.

GW Basketball...where a season total of double-digit victories still means something.

If it is true, we are not playing a full schedule,like virtually every other team, AGAIN, one really has to wonder what the administration is thinking.

And within that, we have another crappy round of five home games against the likes of Binghamton, not that they can't potentially easily defeat us, like the vaunted UMBC again disassembling us.

I don't consider Longwood (did they ever make it into Dvision I?) a local game, which generally would be less than three hours away.

No matter what, you hear how we can't have a normal schedule.

It's not that good teams fear playing us in the Smith Center anymore.

By now, they should be begging to play GW, given our showing last year.

Somehow,GW can't achieve what virtually every other university in the nation is able to do with basketball scheduling

If we ever have any NCAA or even NIT hopes again, rather than advancing to 12th place in the A-10 this year, this lacksadaisical effort  is really going to cost us.

How many years in a row do we have to endure ecuses?

Thank you, Big Fan.  If the Hatchet story is accurate regarding the schedule, then I must wonder where is the outrage from this board?  Four flippen out of conference home games.  Two more games left unscheduled.   Should this be accurate, once the schedule is officially released, we, the consumer of this product, must let the administration know how unhappy we are.

LSF, the only thing worse than outrage is apathy.  When you produce one pathetic home schedule after the net, it stands to reason that eventually, fans are going to stop caring.  I hate to tell you what happens after that.

Sacramento State fits perfectly into Karl Hobbs' scheduling philosophy. 

Remember when they used to argue that "nobody good will play GW, home or away."   Then it turns out that Hobbs is the one that limits the team's schedule by putting stipulations in place: he likes his favorite locations (Boston with BU), he'll go back to his familiar teams (Binghamton and Longwood again), he wants to limit his OOC loses and thus tries to get few true away games as possible and additionally tries to avoid away games agains teams that play well at home (isn't that just about any good team).  A bigtime BCS program like UCLA or Alabama is worth it, but not for some mid-major program.

Thus Sacramento State: 0-9 on non-conference play  and 2-24 overall last year. Longwood went 6-22.  Perfect matchup in Hobbs' mind.  I just don't understand why NJ Institute of Technology has escaped us so long.

Hobbs probably sees a road game vs a BSC school as a no lose situation: either they pull a big upset on the road or write it off as too tough of matchup.  No presure on KH or the team. But a home and home vs a Kent, ODU, Butler or Hofstra presents problems.  GW could go 0-2.  That makes Hobbs look bad and we can't have that. 

Then there's Gonzaga.

From recent comments about how the schedule is jiggered to keep from playing tough away games, my guess is that GW made no contact with any of the better bball schools you mention, GWAA.  Even though we have a record of playing Stanford, and playing M. Montgomery (now at Cal), I somehow don't believe calls would have been made to those schools.

It's quite a shame.

We seem content to bask in that phony 27-3 season and the 3 straight years in the NCAA.

We'll be begging for a rematch for Fairfield at this rate. 

That's ok, GWAA, about the nits.  I wasn't thinking they'd moved Gonzaga, just thinking that the great Northwest was all in play for a GW away game.

Nothing against Sac St. It just seems that in looking for a stop-over game (UNC is doing pretty much the same thing, according to its schedule), GW might have considered the whole range of college bball opportunities.

I trust there's a contract provision that requires Sac St. to lose, or, in the alternative, come to GW and lose the following year.

Since we just played at UCLA last year, I doubt they're too ecited to invite up back this year.  But we get your point.   I wouldn't play either.

Schedule tough home and home games.  UCLA will never play us at GW.  But maybe Wichita, VCU, St Mary's, Neveda, Butler or Hofstra will if Hobbs grows the balls to play them at thier house.  That should be our focus.

you guys epect way too much from the administration.

The schedule is fitting with the product on the floor.   At this point, i'd rather see the momentus possability of a fluke 20 win season...then the potential danger of back to back single digit seasons.  This way- we can raise more loot for a smitty revamp to attract bigger programs.  It's like hearing what we have to say...and then making it happen 3-5 yrs later.  you know- like our college education.

dont throw stones folknuts- Just my humble opinion sure to stir a freakin riot on this, my beloved Gwhoops.

GW should bring back both the Red Auerbach and the Presidential Classics. Schedule West Virginia Tech, New Jersey Tech, and CalTech, have them come in for two tourneys in a row. Maybe then we can get back to a 20 win season, and fool the NCAA into another invitation.

Actually, I do wish we kept the Big Red. And I think if there's some decent guard play, GW has the forwards to improve quite a bit this year.  I hope KH is re-energized.

Until it's published in local newspapers, as far as I'm concerned, the schedule has not yet been publicly announced.  This means we have 2 more days for the UNDER to cash in.  Come on Jack, Dom, Brad, etc.  You can do this.  Announce your schedule prior to September 10.  Don't be thrown by the fact that avier announced theirs like in May; we're not avier and we're not epecting that level of performance.  Virtually every school in the country has announced theirs by now.  What's the delay?  Trying to firm up a date with Hawaii-Hilo as long as we're going to be on the island anyway?  UMES is demanding we finally play at their place?  App. State will only agree to a three game home-away-neutral court series (within the same season, of course) and this puts us over the limit so how are we going to renege on Longwood?  Come on, what are the burning issues that pop up so that our schedule can't be announced year in and year out until the networks unveil their fall schedules?

GWAA,

I would imagine that if you win through to the championship game you play one more game than the other teams play. 

impressive, mailvan - September 9th

Do you work for Jack?

I was particularly impressed with the 2 television games (one of which is on Fo Sports Ohio).  Way take a program that went to the NCAA tournament 3 years in a row and was ranked # 6 in the country 3 seasons ago and run it to the ground.

It's actually the worst schedule ever.  Not just our worst one ever which would truly be saying something unto itself.  It's the worst schedule in the history of the sport.  I'm not eaggerating; it's truly terrible.  How does this happen?  Do JK and KH sit in a room and wonder aloud how they can top themselves from year to year?  Auburn is being promoted as a top OOC attraction for no other reason than most people have heard of it.  For the 2nd year in a row, we're playing one less game than we are entitled to play.  What could our players possibly think of this schedule?  Could the coaches have such little amounts of faith in them?  What will playing Sacramento State, Longwood and even Binghamton prove?  Lose any of these games and we've got major problems.  Win them all and so what?  BU, AU and UMBC?  A step up but not quite that higher quality midmajor that we've been craving.  (And while AU and UMBC were successful last season, historically, they haven't been)  The Hawaii opponents are unknown with Clemson being the sole high quality team in that field.  Auburn is a name and nothing more.  Maryland is always interesting.

I have to admit, this schedule is disheartening enough that I'm not nearly as ecited about winning the UNDER as I thought I'd be.

Although I've posted a couple times on this site and do not have the history that most you guys have, I must say, I have never seen a blog as negative as this one.  And that constant whining....I must really be naive.  Are things really this bad?  What is really the deal.  One bad season and they get this reaction?  I'm trying to follow along so what is really the problem? 

It looks like GW lost one of its broadcast radio outlets too, though the school probably can't fairly be blamed on that one..

Barring preemptions, games had previously aired on the 1500 & 820 AM and 107.7 FM signals as 3WT. With the breakup of 3WT, 107.7 FM is not mentioned in the new schedule announcement.... just 1500 & 820.

WCBaller, the one thing you should be made aware of is that the negativity, whininess, or whatever you wish to refer to it as is by no means based on having one dismal season.  In fact, the most vociferous debates on the subject of our schedule took place during GW's 27-3 season.  Because we scheduled in such a way that only allowed us to be tested in the eyes of the NCAA committee twice out of 11 OOC games (yes, the Marshall game turned out to be quite a test but wasn't supposed to be nearly as close as it was), GW became regarded as the team with the cupcake schedule whose #6 national ranking was about as artificial as it gets.  When the committee gave us a #8 seed and 2 games in NC against NC based schools despite a perfect regular season conference record and a 26-2 record at the time, the indictment of our lame schedule became official. 

What I took away after that season was that at least GW has learned a lesson regarding scheduling.  And while several quality games have taken place over the past two seasons since, the fact is that we have still consistently loaded up on games against some of the least successful programs in the country.  And with this year's schedule, the number of "quality OOC" games is back to resembling the 27-3 season.  So apparently, no lessons have been learned whatsoever. 

At the very least, I hope this offers insight as to why this level of frustration eists.

Cagwu, if I worked for Jack, I'm fairly confident I'd have been fired by now.

If it's "whiny" to want to see your team play a couple of opponents that are near or above the level that your team usually plays at, so be it.  Every sports team that I'm aware of markets at least partly based on who they're playing.  Do the Yankees sell season tickets by promoting the games against the Royals or the Red So?  Easy question. 

I see they've revised the schedule so that the Hawaii tournament is on December 27th, 28th, and 30th.  It didn't make much sense to have a four-day tournament for 8 teams. 

NH:  Yes I do.  For past three years.  I challenge anyone on this board if they were at the GW-SBU game during 1-27 season.  A Sunday afternoon at same time Skins were in playoffs.  125 people at the game!  I know there are some much more "long timers" than I, but having come to GW as a transfer from a Big 8 school, where hoops  ti were lotteried for students, the change was shocking!

1. There is no ecuse for not scheduling the full allottment of games. 

2. 2 Good America East teams are solid, but Longwood and Sac State?  .

3. Great to see AU on the Schedule.  Why no Navy, Howard or Mason?

4. As LSF pointed out LaSalle has more institutional weaknesses than GW and they have a better schedule. Why can't we schedule lower division CAA and MVC teams or first division MAAC teams To think I used to be bummed GW always played ODU.

5.  What a shitty schedule without the Rainbow Classic.

6. Wonder how this schedule stacks up with league rules.

7, But drawing back the curtain I find the continued lack of size really distressing. No way Rob Diggs would have signed this year as a freshman. I don't seem to remember us always losing a recruit every year, Dwayne Smith screwed by a ticky tack rule this year, Jerad Cummingham to poor communication with Hobbs about how much latitude he had. Jeremy Wise to unfair Omargate backwash

8. I wonder if the new administration is considering anything they can do NOW to help Men's Basketball.

9. Wish I knew what factors leading to this OOC were GW's doing and therefore correctable and which were not.

10. Is it really just about money? But then how does LaSalle get their schedule.

11. Wish I had $100,000 to give.

12. I recognize Hobbs has done a fabulous job in so many ways, but it is clear I am bummed.

13. Maybe I am just in denial and the long term treads are ugly deside the capital campaign

Simple answers to simple questions.

Fred D asks: Why can't we schedule lower division CAA and MVC teams or first division MAAC teams?

Answer:  We can.  Our coach doesn't want to. 

Are you sure you couldn't be drawn in by some creative advertising and marketing, or would that be just the equivalent of tarting up with some rouge and lipstick?

I've been to GW games for 40 plus years, had season tickets for 30 years. This is just about the low point. The only salvation would be a timely business trip to Hawaii, which seems highly unlikely.

I really do yearn for some of those crappy GW schedules that at least had teams from schools and places I've heard of or been to.  Army, Navy, even The Citadel or VMI. Furman, Stetson, Howard or Brown. There must be some schools in Idaho or Nevada, Missouri or Nebraska, that would love to travel to DC and play the Colonials, if only to boost their recruiting efforts. What about St. Mary's and the other St. Mary's, and St Francis and the other St Francis? Don't they owe us? GW ought to have at least a couple of OOC rivalry schools that we see on the schedule 3 years out of 5. I had thought Pepperdine, James Madison, Sienna or Stanford might have fit the bill, but clearly those balls have been dropped. Maybe Mike Jarvis will be willing to come see us, for old times' sake.

This effort to schedule with an eye towards wins and a jiggered RPI is pushing GW well south of the Mendoza line.

I may have to go to VaTech or WVa to get a fi in January and February.

Ziik - a shitty schedule with lipstick on it is still a shitty schedule (sorry, it was too easy). 

Luckily for me, I'm out of DC, so I won't have to slog through the horrendousness that is our home OOC.  I really do wish that the BB&T was still a tournament, as that usually provided a steady source for good games.  I'm wondering who will be asking Hobbs the tough questions at the open practice about the schedule that i believe he quasi-answered last year.  Maybe the added details that he's losing what few fans he has because of the schedule will add an interesting wrinkle to his response.   Alas, I'll be making the 2 hour trip to Auburn in November - will anyone else be joining me?

Just stared at it again and it gets no better.  Not that GW has control over this, but our conference schedule fails to include home games against avier, St. Joe's or UMASS.  All the more reason to have tried to produce more competitive OOC home games.  Unless of course the belief across this program is that we're going to be a horrible team.  Then, I suppose it's a great schedule.

Perhaps t-shirts could be sold in time for the first home game.  The student version could read "The Schedule Sucks", and the paying adult version could read "The Schedule Is Unacceptable".  Seems to me that if the vast majority of the 1,000 people (actual projected average attendance for the 4 home OOC games) were wearing these shirts, the athletic department MIGHT get some little message.  By all means, I've emphasized MIGHT.

I'm paraphrasing here, but it was just a few years ago when Coach Hobbs, in defending one of the team's schedules, said something to the effect of, "we want to play as many home games as possible.  We want our students and fans to see us play."  Including the BB&T and ecluding ehibitions, that schedule offered either 9 or 10 opportunities to see the Colonials play in DC.  Now, we're down to 5.  Which is just 1 more game than if you've got a week to kill in Sacramento and Hawaii.

Awful.

FQ, I believe we're only leaving 1 on the table.  You're allowed 11 OOC slots with 3 games in HI taking up 1 of those spots.  1. HI  2. Boston U  3. Binghamton  4. Harvard  5. UMD  6. AU  7. UMBC  8. Longwood   9. Sac. State    10. Auburn

Actually, if the ehibition counts as a spot, then we're playing the ma.  But, I don't think it does.

Whoever mentioned that "teams from Idaho...would want to play in DC for recruiting" is yet another eample of us being more creative about this than those who make the actual decisions.  It's a microcosm of the laziness that permeates not only the athletics department, but the university in general.  Most of us would say that GW provides a top-level education in spite of an administration that could be nicely described as third-world.  The athletics department may have a few good eggs, but going from eperience (working w/ people within the department when I was in college and knowing many people since that have worked in and with people in the department) I can say that the overall atmosphere is one of laziness, incompetence, and disinterest. 

Of course the department should be aware that DC is a recruiting hotbed, and beyond that, a college basketball hotbed.  There is no reason on the planet why we shouldn't try to piggyback on the great teams that visit either Maryland or Georgetown, or hell, even UVA or V Tech, and get them to play us somewhere in DC.  And beyond that, can we really believe that no top-level CAA team will play us at Smitty?  Does the administration think that they can continue to feed us obvious lies and we'll lap them up?  We're GW alumni here....we're made to detect BS.  And that's what this is - BS.  Old Dominion?  Mason?  Dreel?  UNCW?  They REALLY won't play us at Smitty?  MVC teams too?  It's a freaking joke.  I've finally understood that this schedule goes beyond complacency - its a clear effort to schedule the worst in D-1.  When you travel to the West Coast, where there are at least 10-15 Top 100 teams, and you pick Sacramento State, 2-24 or whatever, you are trying to pick the worst.  I refuse to believe that Arizona won't have us play in their building.  Ditto USC.  Ditto Washington State.  Ditto Gonzaga, who has the same issues as us, getting teams to play in Spokane, but they make up for it with a killer OOC, being that their conference makes the A-10 look like world beaters. 

Give me a damn break.  I'm so f-ing tired of the administration taking us for morons, or even better, not giving a crap how they take us.  Do they have any clue how profitable a solid basketball program can be?  Does anyone working there have any real stake in how GW is viewed?  Because if you think this is just an athletics issue, you're crazy.  This is an issue that goes throughout the university - why we're ranked, consistently, in the 50s academically, when we know GW is a Top 25-30 education.  Why SJT was paid so damn much.  Why Penders was given the ridiculous buyout.  Why guys like Jack, Chernak, and Dom Perno still have jobs.  It's a joke, and clearly, Knapp is either unfit for the position, or fits perfectly in that he lets everything stay as is, with everyone clinging to their position, knowing that they'll never be forced out.  Wake up, everyone.  This goes beyond a stupid out-of-conference schedule.  It's the reason why our diplomas aren't worth more, and why we'll never be ranked where we should be.  I'm just fed up.

Once again, FQ is right. GW has left two possible games off the schedule.  10 official OOC (HI counts only 1) 16 A10 games = 26. The allowed is 28.  A perfect set up for a pair of home/homes with 2 other mid-majors: Drake, Hoffstra, GMU, UNC-Wil, Butler, N Iowa, Houston, etc.  Sad but true.

At least we know understand how lowly Sacramento State got into the picture as a road venture.   They sell virgins on the internet: http://www.topsocialite.com/natalie-dylan-auctioning-her-virginity/

Add that to Karl Hobbs' long list of school criteria when scheduling the OOC.

Sacramento State played 26 games last year as well.  At least now I understand the attraction.

Yo yo yo crew- It's about time Lev starts earnin' his keep around hea...nah mean!   2008 is almost gone and traffic is down big time most likely duet our ultrabland schedule...or is it????????????  So- from the dirty south...to Mikey in Queens, to GWA Abroad...and every other sucka in between:

 (to the tune of Piano man)

Well it's 3 oclock on a Friday...and the regular gwhoops crew has gone to bed,,,

There's an old alum sitting net to me...shouting out all the upset wins we ever had

den ne ne de ne ne de de de d e de ne ne de ne ne....de de de de...

He says Lev can you read off this year's schedule, as he smiles at the thought of 2006,

Well its sad and it's still discrete since they wont release it on the street...so get used to not being in... the fuckin know...

de ne ne  de ne ne... de de de de   De ne ne... de ne ne...de de de de

(END TUNE)

Well my dear friends, the long drought is behind us.  I have clearly been remissed when it comes to the 10 or so Recaps that i owe in 2008.  Slowly but surely, those threads will reappear throughout the year, giving me one last chance to make y'all laugh at some of our finer moments on Gwhoops.com.  This Gwhoops.com year has been marked with poster epulsions, threats to our beloved site owner (ok ok- cant actually confirm that), multiple identity discoveries...among other truly eciting subplots that are sure to keep even Dan Steinberg's blog bareable.  So without any further ado:  I bring to you, a no holds barred, Kimbo sliced and recession proof Recap for y'all to enjoy.... sponsored by Empire BC/BS.  that's Empire Blue Cross/Blue Seats -- falsely insuring your health today by Bullshitting about how great your future bball schedules will be tomorrow.

1.  MAILVAN- (the man, the myth, the legend)- He offers the following bet:  GW will announce its official schedule BEFORE Septmeber 10th.  Not after.    He claims that this is a shocking "break from character" for himself- as usually- he has absolutely nothing positive to say about anything related ot the AD.  Thus, he is assuming--- that it would be considered a positive that Gw's loyal fanbase actually finds out about their schedule well into September each year.

2.  George the Hippo Hunter-  (AKA Curious G and the swine of SJT)-  contends that this year- no schedule will be released so as to lure the whole student body to our mysterious top 25 team...hmmmmmm

3.  Porter 71- (check ya coat at the door biatch)-  also contends that no official sced will come out for Gw.  instead- it will be a guessing game for all ...perhaps today we play Duke...oh wait...more likely Longwood.

4.  Mailvan- laughs off Porter's pretense that Duke was playing the smitty...

5.  Andrew Alberg- (GW Hatchet's voice of reason...somewhat)  Informs the community that the OOC schedule has been released by the Hatchet.  But- was the whole OOC reported?  Net on GWHoops Hospital!

6.  Mentzinger-  (The voice of Reason)-  immediately looks toward Nov 14th against BU as the game he may show his New english blah blah blah...i hope the fuckin rays whoop your butt my dear friend

7.  Long Suffering Fan- (life is always Sunny side DOWN bastard)-  Instantly calls into question GW's apparent lack of full slated games for the 2008-9 season.  He highlights the 10 OOC games scheduled in the Hatchet as well as the 16 A-10 games as he contends that gW will once again only play 26 games. 

8.  Porter71-  Vents his frustration that Gw will apparently play less then their allowable allotment of games this year as well as having a second straight year of horrid OOC home opponents.  He questions whether to renew his season tickets.  HaHa-  little does he know- Gw also scheduled a little preseason scrimmage against the Palin Pro-Lifers and the Biden UnSound-Bytes. 

9.  GwIslander- (where Everybody WANG Chungs tonight) -  Starts the ripping into JK and the AD.  calls for Knapp to start the new hire process in the AD.

10.  Bluish seats- (Where hot air meets sarcastic flare)- This poster attempts to rile up the artist, formerly known as BS, in a lame attempt to call the Ad's disappointing schedule into question

11.  LA Colonial- (Torre's Mimutemen)- Points out to LSF that we actually have three games in Hawaii (tourney)- but more debate on that relevancy to follow

12.  LSF-  (Lucy in the Sky with a Fuckin incomplete schedule)  This is where the thread starts to get into the nitty gritty.  LSF's post resonates well with many.  He questions last year's theory that JK and the AD would have to schedule only OOC games against top 200 opponents.    He questions why we can't garner even one game against 10 local (CAA or other) teams in a home/home swap.  He jabs at the AD for not apllying a full schedule or even a full scholarship roster.

13.  Mailvan- (We deliver the repetitious AD attack in rain, snow, hail etc..)-  On a lighter note- he happily points out that the Hawaii tourney's three games actually only counts as 1 game.  Therefore, smiles, cause that means Gw is leaving not one, but two games on the table for all to conjure. 

14.   Poog- ( TAL- The Admin. Liberator)-  (AKA- I aint BS- so don't play me like an inside flop)-  Poog comes on strong with an absolutely brilliant point...how the hell will Gw play Dayton at the smitty on inauguration Day.  it simply wont happen as scheduled.  Just a hunch. 

15.  BigFan-  (Large in waist...but small in waste)-  Directs us to the claim that has become old adage this past two years- why do we not have a full slate of games...and why does the Ad keep scheduling 5 disappointing home OOC's?  More to come...on geraldo.

16.  LA Fan-  (AKA - Gwhoops.com poster meets tony stark)-  Noting his constant tech savvy suggestions for a new Smitty- this poster mocks the GW AD's similarities to the secrecy tactics of the KGB and Stalinist Russia. 

17.  cagwu-   (C A GWU fan?...that right...you're lookin right at em) -  makes a great post suggesting that it's actually the rising cost of fuel that has kept JK and the AD away from scheduling merely decent games in our OOC. 

18.  Dootie bubble- (AKA- dootie bubble)-  Can't decide what is worse...the fact that we play an away game versus Sac State this year...OR the actual fact that this may be the start of a home/home series with Sac St. 

19.  Bobo- (Skewattintattin..yayayaya)-  Also brings up an interesting point about Sac. St.   They seem to suck always...regardless if they are home and away.  sort of like longwood.  He contends that this is eactly the type of teams KH is looking for.  He also suggests that we should try to see if NJ Institute of Technology has a home/home series available in the near future.   After we play the bball game- we all get to go to Nathans to look at our muscle cars.

20.  GRB-  (ICUP) quickly questions why he should cough up the dough to renew

21.  chrisw- (AKA  chrisW)-  claims its the smitty hot dogs that keep him renewing... nothing like eating hot dogs that look like cooked lincoln logs.

22.  GWAlum Abroad-  (Fun under the sun and the IP's to prove it)- Reminds us as to possibly why the Sac. st. game materialized.  We tried for USF, and possibly others en route to the Hawaii tourney.  This was the only one that they could get done. 

23.  Ziik- (the man who really does make shirts!)- Adds that its doubtful GW called many a western schools to set down a game.  He mentions Gonzaga as an add on to GWAA's list.   He inserts a below the belt Fairfiend joke here as well.  ouch...yowza!

24.  Then GWAA and Ziik - Start Pick nits back and forth.  I guess here I can interject our first sponsor commercial for 2008-9 Levinator Recaps -  Hey...when you find yourself sick of Pickin nits-  perhaps its time to buy FQ's Bar BQ.  That's right- now in this special offer...you can get FQ's BarBQ- complete with the Anti-BS ignition- sure to give you many a nights of statistical lean pork- no BS.

25.  Consensus among active posters-  We ought to go after tougher home/home.  what the Phunk is up with the AD?  This is eactly like last year- but worse

26.  Gwhoops Maven- (Steppin to the heavies like he's the AD's safe haven)- Speaks the truth when he corrects the heavies that they are forgetting one of our better OOC games against auburn.  good job hatchet.  Jk.  But- its true- when all is said and done- Gw does play 27 games (not GW) that count even though they really play 29.  ehhh...right?

27.  Levinator-   (the muppet voice of Bob Barr)-  Ouch.  Levinator dares to suggest that this OOC schedule is perfect for the antincipated 2008-9 squad.  It seems Kh is going after that magical 20 win season again- you know the one where if we lose the a-10- we likely only make the NIT. 

28.  Ziik- (not just a lawyer, but an AD litigator)-  Sarcastically suggests that we should have kept the Red Auerbach tourney and the Presidential Classics so we could invite a bunch of Tech's and get to 20 wins.  You know- that elusive Gw 20 win season where the whole world says we suck but our little world says we might not have sucked had we played a better OOC.  you know...that type of season.  Ziik does take the time to credit the potential guard play of this years GW squad! 

29.  Mailvan- Posts just 48 hours before his over/under bet will end.  He pleads with the AD and the powers that be to officially announce gw's schedule before his imposed gambling line.  What Mailvan doesn't know...is that KH and BS have been secretly working on adding a final game against the UPS under-30 team- our beloved mawilvan's intramural squad.   Sources say...that Mailvan's loose bowels might preclude him from playing the point though.  Guess it gives new meaning to the term- "what can Brown do for you, eh?"

30.  Hatchet Man- (wow- i guess we will never know if you were really an editor for the hatchet- or just some plain psycho killer- )  HM- Uses the kindest of words to suggest that Gw's schedule is fuckin pathetic and the admin should die!   

31.  Waterboy- (hey...it certainly beat being the pissboy!) - Asks the obvious immediate question for out of towners- is the home game versus Dayton- the only real home game that he should attempt to come to?   Aquaman- my answer is simple- perhaps.  lol

32.  LSF- (Lucy in the Sky with Fuckin LaSalle's OOC)-   LSF graces us with Lasalle's 8 game home OOC schedule.  they scored Florida state, bucknell, vlllanova, Rider and manhattan among others.  He does recall that they ARE part of the Big 5 in phili- But- we do like his anger and disdain here.  Go LSF...get mad baby!

33. Alumnus- (One alum who shouldn't be crossed)  - How dare thee actually try to use reason and logic in your response to this thread!  Lol.  it is here where Alumnus asks us to eplore Rocha's response on a different thread and its possible link to the issue at hand.  perhaps GW- a private school within a big city- subsidizes its vast sports lineup (M and W)- with the proceeds it garners from Bball sales.    My one resonse to that point- sure rocha- but if you are so stuck that you need the BBall revenue to support the other teams- perhaps its time to schedule some big time programs that are sure to fill the smitty with ecited fans NO MATTER if we ended up with a W or L-  that's just levinator's take. 

34. Rangw-  As if by some devine miracle...the UNDER wins...well done mailvan.  Just in the nik of time.

35.  Alumnus- (and now you're getting him angry!)- immediately begins the dissection process.  He points out that the game against Harvard and AU are during or right after finals and that UMBC is Twas the NIGHT before Thanksgiving!  Wow- what big draws you have JK!        

36.  Aston Party- (As opposed to a ton of asses party)-  He actually thought an @Longwood was a joke.  Oh...how hard it is to figure just who the joke is actually on?   

 37.  Thinker- (Finally- someone with concrete thoughts!)-  Reminds GWAA- that the reason why a team can possibly play 4 games in Hawaii- is because...perhaps...the teams that play in the championship- play one etra game

38.  Cagwu- (Secret sleuth)- Discovers mailvan's True Identity- Captain Jack's minister of Disinformation

39.  LSF- talks trash about the lack of t eposure...(prelude for threads to come)

40.  Thinker- follows up alumnus's already harsh criticism by questioning the 1/3 date against longwood.

 41.  Mailvan- (Has his usually mid-thread meltdown) Goes bonkers on this schedule calling it the worst ever in the "history of the sport."  He questions almost evevy OOC game and contends that a schedule where Auburn and UMD are the top draws is just downright the worst! 

42.  WCBaller- (stop yo whining biatches)-   does earn some credit here for calling out Mailvan for being a bit over the top here.  nonetheless- he needs to read a bit more about the shcedules the last 4 years.   

43.  Crazed philly fan- (Go phillies go)-  recaps the thread- its about the lack of communication to the fanbase and the poor scheduling WCBaller!

44.  Mailvan and FQ- both resond to WCBaller about why they whine so much over the schedule.  Mailvan wants us all to know that he whined the MOST during the 2006 season where we went 27-3.  He does back it up with valid reasons.  FQ merely suggests to WCballer that he not a typical naysayer- but is currently being turned off by a number of issues lik elack of communication from thr Ad and failure to fill out a complete bballl schedule.

45.  GRB threatens his 26 year renewal streak!

46.  Mailvan tells cagwu that if did work for JK- he certainly would be fired by now.  Actually- come to think of it- it seem sonly fitting that mailvan would be employed by our AD.  After all we have been through together----hmmm

47.  Notta Hater- (he's a lover...notta fighter)- makes GRB own up to his statement that he travels from Philly to Dc for every gw game even during the week. 

48.  GRB- Guarantees it and says he's been doing it for 3 years.  then goes on to trash talk about he 1-27 season with a whole bunch of blah blah blah. 

49.  FredD- (The long lost cousin of ChrisW)- Poses a series of questions and statemetns.  highlights- good to see AU- but why not Mason?  Why not full allotment?  Shitty schedule without the Rainbow!  Is this really about money?  He wishes he can rob banks like Stockbrokers and sell ARMS like mortgage lenders so he can steal the 100,000 to pay for us to play like sineea or some shit. 

50.  Ziik- goes at the schedule again attacking all that it is and all that it aint!  Whatever happened to the furmans ans Stetsons...oh yeah...its called longwood and BU.   I must admit though- how a tame arecap has been when Mailvan and ziik appear on the same side of the coin. 

51.  The ross-man! (I am me...hear me Ross!)-    Offers a ride to anyone going to Auburn ..

52.  DB-  Anytime DB enteres into the road trip picture- you know its gonna get pretty eciting! 

53. Mailvan suggest the students wear shirts that say the "Scedule sucks"  and that adults wear ones that say "the schedule is unacceptable."  i say Mailvan- your idea is unacceptable.  Adults shirts should instead read." Stop Knapping...Fuckin fill the Schedule Por Favor"

54.  Free Quebec-  (cause God only knows what the world would be like without those stupid french canadians eh)  FQ assesses that we are actually leaving 2 games on the table based on the new rules

55.  BuffBlue-  (The one man wrecking crew)- goes on a must read diatribe about the ills that make up our current AD.  He aint taking shit from anybody.  well..ecept maybe KH and JK again.  lol

55. Bobo- confirms that FQ was right with his math.  ummm.....d'uh!  lol  Liike any of us ever doubted him! 

56.  Mailvan ends the thread by pointing out that Sac St. also only scheduled 26 games.  Thus, it was a match made in heavan between two teams who seem destined to meet in a battle of the ages.

In conclusion- the moral of this thread is that no matter how anti-AD Mailvan really is:  He still was able to guess within 24 hours the eact time that Gw announced their 2008-9 schedule.  Truly amazing.  also- no matter how bad you think our OOC is, or how horrible it is that we didnt even schedule the correct allotment of games allowed----we still managed to alienate our small rabid fanbase by raising ticket prices and stifle all prudent correspondence to and fro. 

2008 Levinator Recaps -  where all it takes is just one palin wink!

Lev, great job as always.  I'm not angry about the schedule.  These discussions are mostly academic at this point.  You'd think that a program that's trying to raise a big amount of money would try to do something to get subscribers ecited.  I'd be curious to see what some of their B-school profs think about this "marketing" approach.  As long as tickets are reasonably cheap, if the home games are lackluster, then if I feel like doing something else, I have little regret skipping a game.  If the ticket prices jump and the games are lame, I won't continue to subscribe.  Why get any more worked up about it than Kvancz and Co. seem to?  

Recap  bump to all newbies on Gwhoops 2008-9.  I will move this thread to the Recap section this weekend.  good luck Gw friday.  I can't wait to see this season unfold! 

if you think the drama on this site hit its peak...ya aint seen nothin yet!!!!!!!!!!!!

Levinator Recap bump for all newbies again 2 years later.,..  I obviously feel guilty that life has gotten in the way of writing three (not 5) Recaps intended for all of us to laugh off our differences and yet, still passionately epress our feelings about our beloved GW Bball program (and OT drama).  they also help the newbies (current Gw students or recent alums who find the site as welll as us oldie but goodies) understand the drama that has eisted for Freakin years darn it!  

This thread...scroll down toward the end- for the Recap- truly sums up a frustration we have felt over a decade old.  Perhaps - a tougher OOC - will truly set us up better...for a better A-10 play.  Hmmmm